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THE ARBITRATION GAME IS OVER AND MOST OF US ARE RELIEVED

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:50 pm
by Sandgnats (Bill)
Well, everybody kicked my ass! :D
I guess I know less about guessing arbitration amounts than Dusty Baker knows about managing a professional baseball team.

Thanks for playing all & the results are in:
The percentage listed is the % you missed by on your average guess.
So, the lower the percentage number, the better you did!

Borealis 7 guesses for 31%
Coal Sox 1 guess for 44%
Bears 4 guesses for 29%
Thoroughbreds 3 guesses for 67%
Calzones 4 guesses for 31%
Longshoremen 5 guesses for 97%
Trendsetters 7 guesses for 40%
Nutmeggers 3 guesses for 35%
Cyclones 7 guesses for 64%
Hitmen 8 guesses for 29%
Bureaucrats 24 guesses for 46%
Sandgnats 37 guesses for 81%
If I had to pick a winner, it would be Arlington Bureaucrats due to the fact that he was only one of two to guess at more than 10 players and none of them were his own!

Points of interest:
-Jason Jackson of the Longshoremen was awarded $505,267 and the average guess for his salary was $2,266,666, which happens to be over 4 times what he made!
-The player who made the most in arbitration(who was listed here) was George Riley of the Longshoremen for $8,355,000. That's still a bargain for a guy who hit 330 with a 440 OBP, right?
-The most bizarre comparison is that of Merlin Peters (Calzones) who made $5,430,000 for 3 whole innings of work. Compare that to Conan McCullough (Trendsetters) who made $5,884,400. Hmmmm, this guy in 180 IP struck out 225 and had a 1.80 ERA with 2 HR allowed. Easily the best pitcher in the league and they reward him with less than $6 Million. WOW! All I can say is that the Trendsetters management definitely wined and dined the arbitrator.

Overall, the pitchers seemed to receive a lot less than the hitters did. Why? I have no idea. Well, I learned a lot this year-hopefully you did too!

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:52 pm
by Sandgnats (Bill)
My guesses.............

CF Jack Miller $1.8 M
1B Manny Lopez $3.6 M
SP Mathys Crete $4.0 M
CF Salvador Bernal$5.3 M
SS Naoaki Kichida $5.8 M
MR Angel Lara $3.2 M
LF Aaron Turner $8.3 M
CF Claudio Cordova $2.7 M
MR Gary Jansen $1.3 M
MR Ernesto Vildasola $1.25 M
SP Edward Coleman $14.8 M
SP Chandler Davis $13.2 M
SP Conan McCullough $19.75 M
MR Joaquin Hernandez $4.1 M
MR Isei Imamura $1.23 M
MR Lee Montgomery $1.68 M
1B Augusto Valdez $9.33 M
1B Robby Shepherd $810 K
RF Eduardo Molina $2.75 M
MR Juan Cano $3.8 M
SP Pedro Cruz $7.85 M
MR Francisco Perez $2.25 M
SS David Bell $3.6 M
SS George Riley $14.2 M
OF Jason Jackson $2.5 M
RF Jude Pew $14.4 M
CF Alberto Delgado $9.3 M
2B Roy Benthall $5.5 M
CL Curt Peterson $4.6 M
C Eric Morse $8.45 M
CF Javier Martinez $4.6 M
2B Michael Harris $1.35 M
C Jacques Fillion $11.1 M
CL Antonio Delgado $2.7 M
2B Jose Avila $5.22 M
LF Shimpei Adachi $8.7 M
CL Merlin Peters $5.1 M
C Marvin Walters $980K

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:15 am
by Tyler
West Virginia

SP Mathys Crete $4.2 million

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:20 am
by John
Sounds like fun! And if we get enough participation before tonight's sim I just may dish out a small CP bonus to the winner. :D Now I have quite a number of pricey arbitration guys, so this ought to be a challenge for me. Lesse...

CF Salvador Bernal - CURRENT: $4,085,248 - ARBY GUESS: $5,433,380
SS Naoaki Kichida - CURRENT: $2,824,860 - ARBY GUESS: $4,484,950
MR Ángel Lara - CURRENT: $2,206,413 - ARBY GUESS: $2,316,730
LF Aaron Turner - CURRENT: $380,000 - ARBY GUESS: $2,576,380

Sure guess

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:47 am
by DanD
CF Jack Miller $1.55 million
SP Mathys Crete $3.4 million
CF Salvador Bernal$4.8 million
SS Naoaki Kichida $6.0 million
MR Angel Lara $3.5 million
LF Aaron Turner $ 4.3 million

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:45 am
by Badgers
Claudio Cordova $5.1 million
Gary Jansen $2 million
Ernesto Vildosa $1.2 million

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:19 am
by Reg
SP Edward Coleman $7,000,000
SP Chandler Davis $6,000,000
SP Conan McCullough $10,000,000
MR Joaguin Hernandez $1,200,000
MR Isei Iwamura $1,500,000
MR Lee Montgomer $1,700,000
1B Augosto Valdez $8,000,000

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:55 am
by Duane
3 players for Kentucky
1b Rob Shepherd current 380k - guessing 900k
RF Ed Molina - current 380k - guessing 4mil
MR Juan Cano - current 1.5mil - guessing 4 mil

John no cheating by using the TEST version iof the league

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:05 am
by John
I'd be more worried about the Bears using their access to PEBA 2.0. :grin:

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:46 pm
by Coqui
SP Pedro Cruz- Current: $4.4mil Guess: $4.5mil
MR Francisco Perez- Current: $1.9mil Guess: $1.5mil (if his goes up I will cry)
2B/SS David Bell- Current: $1.7mil Guess: $3mil
SS George Riley- Current: $4.9mil Guess: $11mil
OF Jason Jackson- Current: $691k Guess: $2.5mil

I fear arbitration is going to kill my payroll.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:07 pm
by John
Longshoremen wrote:MR Francisco Perez- Current: $1.9mil Guess: $1.5mil (if his goes up I will cry)
I agree that Perez is a good candidate to see a decreased salary through arbitration.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:30 pm
by Ghosts
Jude Pew: $11.3 million

Alberto (aka "Carlos") Delgado: $6.2 million

Roy Benthall: $4.7 million

Curt Peterson: $2.8 million

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:53 pm
by John
Bears wrote:Carlos Delgado: $6.2 million
Don't you mean Alberto Delgado? There are no former MLB'ers in PEBA, not after the events that brought about that now-defunct league's demise...

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:25 pm
by Ghosts
Borealis - Commissioner wrote:
Bears wrote:Carlos Delgado: $6.2 million
Don't you mean Alberto Delgado? There are no former MLB'ers in PEBA, not after the events that brought about that now-defunct league's demise...
yeah, i got confused (again) with PEBA 2.0 (the rules are just different there).

additions

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:37 pm
by DanD
CF Claudio Cordova Nutmeggers 5.05
MR Gary Jansen Nutmeggers 1.95
MR Ernesto Vildosola Nutmeggers 1.1
SP Edward Coleman Trendsetters 8.9
SP Chandler Davis Trendsetters 3.2
SP Conan McCullough Trendsetters GULP! 11.0
MR Joaquin Hernandez Trendsetters 3.5
MR Isei Imamura Trendsetters 1.8
MR Lee Montgomery Trendsetters 2.4
1B Augusto Valdez Trendsetters 6.0
1B Robby Shepherd Thoroughbreds 380k
RF Eduardo Molina Thoroughbreds 550k
MR Juan Cano Thoroughbreds 2.2
SP Pedro Cruz Longshoremen 5.5
MR Francisco Perez Longshoremen 1.9
SS David Bell Longshoremen 2.5
SS George Riley Longshoremen GULP! 9.0
OF Jason Jackson Longshoremen 1.8