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Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:36 pm
by Cole
Ocelots wrote: Kalamazoo qualifies for a market size increase.
Sweet! This making the playoffs thing isn't so bad after all? Bigger market and my team's budget went up by $8 million.. I'll have to keep up this success thing.

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:50 am
by Simon
Umm, so i lost fan loyalty.. but im not listed as a team qualified for a hit.
Is it something that can happen regardless of Matt as well?

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:02 am
by Coqui
Calzones wrote:Umm, so i lost fan loyalty.. but im not listed as a team qualified for a hit.
Is it something that can happen regardless of Matt as well?
Yes, from Matt's first post above:
Ocelots wrote:Keep in mind, OOTP generated changes are completely separate, and changes that occur within the game do not affect eligibility for performance based changes, and vice versa.

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:41 am
by Matt
The 2022 Performance Based changes have been determined, and all changes will be reflected after the next sim.

Tempe 17
RGV 17
Aurora 15
Kentucky 15
Duluth 14
Manchester 12
Crystal Lake 11
Arlington 11
Amsterdam 11
Yuma 11
Hartford 11
Florida 10
London 8
Okinawa 8
Dayton 8
Kalamazoo 8
Charleston 8
San Antonio 8
Shin Seki 7
Marseille 7
Lupin 6
Palm Springs 6
Canton 6
Niihama-shi 5
West Virginia 5
New Orleans 5
Neo Tokyo 4
Havana 4
Fargo 4
New Jersey 2
Reno 2
Bakersfield -1

Tempe 17
RGV 17
Aurora 15
Kentucky 15
Duluth 14
Manchester 12


Tempe qualifies for the Market Size increase. RGV was not eligible for an increase this year as they had averaged more than 100 losses the previous 3 seasons (123 losses will leave a mark).

Aurora and Duluth will receive Fan Loyalty increases. Kentucky is ineligible this season because they received an increase last season. Manchester remains ineligible because they received a change 3 yrs ago. Since Aurora's Fan Loyalty is already maxed out, no change will occur.

Neo Tokyo 4
Havana 4
Fargo 4
New Jersey 2
Reno 2
Bakersfield -1


Bakersfield is ineligible for the Market size change since they took a hit 3 years ago.

Reno, New Jersey and Fargo are also ineligible because of recent Fan Loyalty changes. That leaves Havana and Neo Tokyo suffering the only hits this season, -1 to Fan Loyalty.

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:50 am
by Apollos
Good for Tempe! If any organization needed a financial lift, it's the Knights.

Aurora and Duluth on the other hand :shake:

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:57 am
by Matt
Sandgnats wrote:Good for Tempe! If any organization needed a financial lift, it's the Knights.

Aurora and Duluth on the other hand :shake:
Yeah, Aurora was already maxed out so it doesn't effect anything, but that Championship did inoculate them from taking any hits for a few years.

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:02 am
by Borealis
Hmmmmmmm... How can our loyalty be maxed out, yet our Fan Interest goes during the course of a Championship season? Sounds like a communist plot... Maybe we can roll that FL into FI? :bang:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:09 am
by Matt
Borealis wrote:Hmmmmmmm... How can our loyalty be maxed out, yet our Fan Interest goes during the course of a Championship season? Sounds like a communist plot... Maybe we can roll that FL into FI? :bang:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Fan Interest is even more fickle than Fan Loyalty. I never included Fan Interest in the system because it factors in too many day to day factors and goes up and down over the course of a season. I stuck with just Market Size and Fan Loyalty because those are things that change much more slowly. Fan Interest can also be gamed to an extent - for instance if the performance based adjustments were to give a team a Fan Interest penalty, they could just trade for an extremely popular player or sign one as a free agent, completely wiping out the performance based hit. Thus, no inclusion as part of the system.

Your not the first that missed out on an increase, however. I believe Amsterdam missed out a few years ago because of being maxed out. Them the breaks.

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:59 am
by Borealis
No prob - I'll take maxed out...

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:28 am
by roncollins
Filed under: Problems of the 1%. :)

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:32 am
by Akira
Ocelots wrote:That leaves Havana and Neo Tokyo suffering the only hits this season, -1 to Fan Loyalty.
Ouchy.

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:20 pm
by Leones
Havana's got bigger problems than the fickle love of a few yahoos in the stands. Our owner has completely lost his mind this year. It's going to be a very difficult season. !+)

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:26 pm
by Arroyos
Leones wrote: Our owner has completely lost his mind this year. It's going to be a very difficult season. !+)
At least your owner has a mind to lose. Yuma's collective ownership has not a single cell of gray matter among them. For example, they insisted we extend Javier Cruz' contract without providing any money for extensions. And their goals for the coming season include (1) "Win the Championship" and (2) "Build a team that can bring home a championship in the next four years."

Do they even talk to each other? Or proofread their messages to our poor bedraggled GM, Pam Postema?

Apparently, in order to buy a ball club, or a share in a club as in Yuma's case, you must pony up your grey cells.

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:01 pm
by Simon
Haha :lol:

Re: Performance Based Market/Fan Loyalty Changes (PEBA)

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:16 pm
by Borealis
Cliff Hangers wrote:Filed under: Problems of the 1%. :)
To quote the RL Will T - "First World Problems"...
Bulldozers wrote: At least your owner has a mind to lose. Yuma's collective ownership has not a single cell of gray matter among them. For example, they insisted we extend Javier Cruz' contract without providing any money for extensions. And their goals for the coming season include (1) "Win the Championship" and (2) "Build a team that can bring home a championship in the next four years." Do they even talk to each other? Or proofread their messages to our poor bedraggled GM, Pam Postema? Apparently, in order to buy a ball club, or a share in a club as in Yuma's case, you must pony up your grey cells.
Right? We were ordered to sign 'Tugboat' to an extension when he had two years left, and we're demanded to build a dynasty in four years? Has the guy checked his fingers? That's what you get, I guess, when the silent, unknown child takes over when the old man kicks the bucket...