Check out the Calzones game from Sept 21 vs NJ
Pancho Lopez pitches 0.2 innings, is charged with allowing a hit, a home run, but no runs charged to him.
He actually pitched the final two outs of the inning before. He starts the next innings, and apparently leaves injured after throwing a ball. Bandelow comes on in relief, and I believe gives up the home run, though the logs aren't clear on that. I say apparently because, in the box score, Lopez gets charged for the hit and the home run, but Bandelow gets charged for the run.
I know there are some goofy scoring rules in baseball sometimes, but anyone have a clue as to which rule in the matrix takes precedence here?
Goofy scoring rules
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Re: Goofy scoring rules
The game log says says Lopez gave up the home run, but in the replay Bandelow is pitching when the home run is hit. I believe you're right and Lopez threw a ball to Cruz before being replaced by Badelow. Then Bandelow proceeded to give up the home run on his first pitch to Cruz (the second of the at bat). Bandelow should be charged with the run for sure. I think he should have been charged with giving up the homer as well, but I'm not certain about that. Maybe someone else can chime in here?
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Re: Goofy scoring rules
I actually believe this is correctCalzones wrote:Check out the Calzones game from Sept 21 vs NJ
Pancho Lopez pitches 0.2 innings, is charged with allowing a hit, a home run, but no runs charged to him.
He actually pitched the final two outs of the inning before. He starts the next innings, and apparently leaves injured after throwing a ball. Bandelow comes on in relief, and I believe gives up the home run, though the logs aren't clear on that. I say apparently because, in the box score, Lopez gets charged for the hit and the home run, but Bandelow gets charged for the run.
I know there are some goofy scoring rules in baseball sometimes, but anyone have a clue as to which rule in the matrix takes precedence here?
A pitcher who inherits a batter with a count can be charged with a hit(even a HR), but not with an earned run
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Re: Goofy scoring rules
As long as the runs count, New Jersey is fine with either pitcher being charged
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Re: Goofy scoring rules
I think I remember a situation a couple years ago in the MLB where a pitcher got hurt during an at-bat, and a pinch hitter was brought in to face the new pitcher then struck out. I remember the announcers commenting that one of the replacements and one of the originals got credit for the strike out (again, don't remember which), but not the other two.