So what does C.C. Sabathia net the Tribe?
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So what does C.C. Sabathia net the Tribe?
I'm watching the White Sox getting ready to sweep the Indians - stop gloating, you rotten PEBA Sox fans! - and I'm finding myself thinking forward a few weeks to when C.C. Sabathia is inevitably traded. There's been endless talk about it on Sportscenter and all that, but now I'm asking you: what do you think Sabathia will return the Indians? What do you hope he'll return?
My involvement with PEBA has lessened my time to follow actual MLB baseball, so I'm a bit behind on gauging the plum prospects out there. Some of you may be more up on it than I am. So tell me... what do you think? And Sox fans, you can participate too by hurling insults and saying what terrible prospects you hope the Tribe receives in return.
My involvement with PEBA has lessened my time to follow actual MLB baseball, so I'm a bit behind on gauging the plum prospects out there. Some of you may be more up on it than I am. So tell me... what do you think? And Sox fans, you can participate too by hurling insults and saying what terrible prospects you hope the Tribe receives in return.
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Billingsley was one of the top pitching prospects around when I was still paying attention. A deal that landed him and our closer of the future (Broxton) would be pretty nice indeed! But would LA part with Billingsley to get C.C.? I'd be skeptical. Taking a look at his stats, he's 7-7 with a 3.38 ERA. I'm sure the Dodgers view him as an integral part of their rotation, and then the question would have to be, "Why give up a key part of the rotation you control for several more years to get another whom you'll only control for a few months?" So as much as I'd love to see Chad coming to Cleveland, color me skeptical.
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If the Yankees are serious, Chase Wright, Kennedy/Hughes, and either Austin Jackson or Melky Cabrera depending on how ML-ready Cleveland demands in return.
Tampa Bay - lot of talent, but I doubt they rent him for a couple of months. They can wait and use their talent pool more wisely, I think.
Red Sox - depends on how desperate they get. If the Yankees come on strong without CC, and they are in dire need for a push to the playoffs, they might give up guys like Ellsbury and Lester, but based on Epstein's past behavior, I'm guessing they will ride out this season even if they don't make the playoffs, and then push to get CC or someone like him in FA.
My guess - the Brewers or Cubs are probably the major players for Sabathia, although I don't know the NL that well. And I don't know that they have enough to replace the 2 draft picks the Indians will get if they stand pat. But I can see the Cubs making a major push for him if they can sign him to a long term deal. Depends on how much more money they can possibly spend after this past offseason. And how much of a risk it is to let CC bat and run the bases in the NL...
Tampa Bay - lot of talent, but I doubt they rent him for a couple of months. They can wait and use their talent pool more wisely, I think.
Red Sox - depends on how desperate they get. If the Yankees come on strong without CC, and they are in dire need for a push to the playoffs, they might give up guys like Ellsbury and Lester, but based on Epstein's past behavior, I'm guessing they will ride out this season even if they don't make the playoffs, and then push to get CC or someone like him in FA.
My guess - the Brewers or Cubs are probably the major players for Sabathia, although I don't know the NL that well. And I don't know that they have enough to replace the 2 draft picks the Indians will get if they stand pat. But I can see the Cubs making a major push for him if they can sign him to a long term deal. Depends on how much more money they can possibly spend after this past offseason. And how much of a risk it is to let CC bat and run the bases in the NL...
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http://www.faniq.com/blog/Video-CC-Saba ... -Blog-9765Hitmen wrote:And how much of a risk it is to let CC bat and run the bases in the NL...
After watching that video, answer me this: "How much of a risk is it to not let C.C. bat in the NL?"
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I think this is more interestingthan the CC rumors ... at least more appealing to look at
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So the rumor du jour from Ken Rosenthal is that the Indians and the Brewers are discussing a C.C. deal that would net the tribe Matt LaPorta and Alcides Escobar. I won't pretend to know a lot about Escobar - apparently he's a slick-fielding SS with little pop to his bat - but even being removed from MLB for awhile I sure know who LaPorta is. That'd be one of (if not the) most prodigious power bats in the game.
I suspect we'll soon discover if there's truth to this rumor, because if there is then I can't see the Tribe waiting long to move on it. Ain't no one going to beat that proposed offer.
I suspect we'll soon discover if there's truth to this rumor, because if there is then I can't see the Tribe waiting long to move on it. Ain't no one going to beat that proposed offer.
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Congrats Brewers
Sabathia to the Brewers
Matt LaPorta to Cleveland, 2 more minor leaguers but did NOT get Alcides Escobar (why didn't the Indians hold out, I don't know).
If Sabathia and Sheets both opt for FA at the end of the year, Milwaukee could have 5 of the top 35 picks next year, plus some cash for FAs and still a good young core of players.
Matt LaPorta to Cleveland, 2 more minor leaguers but did NOT get Alcides Escobar (why didn't the Indians hold out, I don't know).
If Sabathia and Sheets both opt for FA at the end of the year, Milwaukee could have 5 of the top 35 picks next year, plus some cash for FAs and still a good young core of players.
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Interesting trade. LaPorta is a nice catch, but it doesn't seem like they had any other serious offers or they could have possibly held out for Escobar as well. Milwaukee is making a strong push this season, it'll be interesting to see if it works out for them.
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I'm actually pretty positive about this trade. Of course it'd have been nice to get another "top" prospect from Milwaukee (though I like the stat lines I'm reading from Taylor Green), but I think LaPorta is a significant enough return to make the deal worth it for the Tribe. And I also think it's a great deal for the Brewers; they're poised to make a serious playoff run and they stand to gain a couple extra draft picks come season's end. I'll tentatively call this a win-win, although for Cleveland the story won't be written for years to come.