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Round 3 - The Finals!

RED SOX: 1980's

1. What was your team's winning percentage for the decade? (1 pt, to whoever is closer)

.525

2. How many postseason appearances did your team make? (1 pt)

2 (1986 and 1988 I think)

3. Place each of the 10 seasons in order by team winning percentage:
(1 point for each season in the correct slot)
  1. 1986
  2. 1988
  3. 1985
  4. 1987
  5. 1989
  6. 1980
  7. 1981
  8. 1982
  9. 1984
  10. 1983
4. Over the next 3 questions, we'll put together a roster for your team. Name the player who was your team's regular starter at each defensive position the most years: (1 pt each)
(This is the player that BB-Ref lists most frequently as the starter on the positional starters page, not necessarily the player who started the most games at that position. In the case of a tie, either player will work.)
C: Rich Gedman
1B: Bill Buckner
2B: Marty Barrett
3B: Wade Boggs
SS: Dave Stapleton??? (my second guess would be Jody Reed)
LF: Jim Rice
CF: Tony Armas
RF: Dwight Evans

5. Name the top 5 starting pitchers by games started:
(Scoring: 1 pt for each player correctly on the list, 0.25 additional points for placing them in the right slot)
  1. Roger Clemens
  2. Bruce Hurst
  3. Dennis 'Oil Can' Boyd
  4. Al Nipper
  5. Calvin Shiraldi
6. Name the top 5 relief pitchers by relief appearances (G-GS):
(Scoring: 1 pt for each player correctly on the list, 0.25 additional points for placing them in the right slot)
  1. Bob Stanley
  2. Lee Smith
  3. Wes Gardner (pure guess)
  4. Greg Harris (another guess)
  5. Mike Boddiker? (I think he was a starter lol)
7. For each team, below is the draftee that has produced the most WAR (BB-Ref) from each draft class. Put them in order of draft pick, as if they had been drafted in the same draft.
(Only do your team. 2 points if you've got a player in the right slot, 1 point if you're off by one.)

3.) Dave Magadan (1980)
9.) Steve Lyons (1981)
5.) Mike Greenwell (1982) Gator is my favorite Red Sox player of all-time
2.) Roger Clemens (1983)
6.) Jack McDowell (1984)
7.) Brady Anderson (1985)
10.) Scott Cooper (1986)
4.) Phil Plantier (1987)
8.) John Valentin (1988)
1.) Jeff Bagwell (1989)

8. Name 5 players who played the final game of their major league career for your team in this decade: (1 pt each)
  1. Bob Stanley
  2. Dave Stapleton
  3. Jerry Remy (have a feeling he went to the Padres)
  4. Tony Armas? Again I think he went to a national league team. This is a tough question
  5. Sam Horn
9. Name 1 player who led their league (AL for Tribe, NL for Cards) in a statistic. Name the player, the statistic (e.g. HR's, RBI, etc.), and the year he led the league. (1 pt for each component = 3 pts total)
(Only stats listed on the standard annual BB-Ref leaderboards are eligible. I don't need the numeric league leading tally, just the stat name)
Player: Wade Boggs
Year: Hits
Stat: 1985
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1. What was your team's winning percentage for the decade? (1 pt, to whoever is closer)
.525, a lot of the early 90s cancelled out the late 90s

2. How many postseason appearances did your team make? (1 pt)
5 (1995-1999)

3. Place each of the 10 seasons in order by team winning percentage:
(1 point for each season in the correct slot)
  1. 1995
  2. 1997
  3. 1998
  4. 1999
  5. 1996
  6. 1994
  7. 1993
  8. 1992
  9. 1990
  10. 1991
4. Over the next 3 questions, we'll put together a roster for your team. Name the player who was your team's regular starter at each defensive position the most years: (1 pt each)
(This is the player that BB-Ref lists most frequently as the starter on the positional starters page, not necessarily the player who started the most games at that position. In the case of a tie, either player will work.)
C: Sandy Alomar, Jr.
1B: Jim Thome
2B: Carlos Baerga
3B: Jim Thome (surprisingly enough; I suppose Brook Jacoby or Travis Fryman could also be right)
SS: Omar Vizquel
LF: Joey/Albert Belle
CF: Kenny Lofton
RF: Manny Ramirez

Helps that the Tribe essentially had a core group of players for most of the decade, or at least two core groups. 3B is the most iffy.

5. Name the top 5 starting pitchers by games started:
(Scoring: 1 pt for each player correctly on the list, 0.25 additional points for placing them in the right slot)
  1. Charles Nagy
  2. Bartolo Colon
  3. Dennis Martinez
  4. Chad Ogea
  5. Orel Hershiser
I have a sneaking suspicion that someone like Ogea is farther up this list than we would think.

6. Name the top 5 relief pitchers by relief appearances (G-GS):
(Scoring: 1 pt for each player correctly on the list, 0.25 additional points for placing them in the right slot)
  1. Eric Plunk
  2. Paul Assenmacher
  3. Paul Shuey
  4. Jose Mesa
  5. Mike Jackson
Indians leaned on all these guys hard. Could be a couple I'm forgetting though.

7. For each team, below is the draftee that has produced the most WAR (BB-Ref) from each draft class. Put them in order of draft pick, as if they had been drafted in the same draft.
(Only do your team. 2 points if you've got a player in the right slot, 1 point if you're off by one.)
1990's Indians Picks:
3: David Bell (1990)
2: Manny Ramirez (1991) - He was like 7th overall IIRC
1: Paul Shuey (1992) - I think he was the 2nd overall pick
6: Richie Sexson (1993)
7: Russell Branyan (1994)
9: Sean Casey (1995)
5: David Riske (1996)
8: Dustan Mohr (1997)
4: CC Sabathia (1998)
10: John Gall (1999) - who is this freaking guy?!? Nice draft Tribe!


8. Name 5 players who played the final game of their major league career for your team in this decade: (1 pt each)
  1. Steve Olin (RIP)
  2. Eddie Murray
  3. Tony Pena
  4. Dennis Martinez
  5. Orel Hershiser
For those too young to remember, Olin died in a boating accident during spring training in the early 90s. A second player also died, but his name always escapes me. Bob Ojeda was injured in the crash, but I think he tried to comeback with another team. Unfortunately, I'm not real confident with most of these answers.

Honorable Mention: Joey Belle, though only to be reincarnated as Albert

9. Name 1 player who led their league (AL for Tribe, NL for Cards) in a statistic. Name the player, the statistic (e.g. HR's, RBI, etc.), and the year he led the league. (1 pt for each component = 3 pts total)
(Only stats listed on the standard annual BB-Ref leaderboards are eligible. I don't need the numeric league leading tally, just the stat name)
Player: Albert Belle
Year: 1995
Stat: HR (50 in 144 games IIRC)[/quote]
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Re: MLB Trivia Challenge - Round 3 Finals!

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Nutmeggers wrote:
Longshoremen wrote:3. Place each of the 10 seasons in order by team winning percentage:
(1 point for each season in the correct slot)
  1. 1985
  2. 1982
  3. 1981
  4. 1987
  5. 1986
  6. 1989
  7. 1983
  8. 1980
  9. 1989
  10. 1988
You have 1989 twice and no 1984.
D'oh! Fixed in my post above.
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Round 3 - The Finals Scoring!

Here it is! For all the marbles (think Marble Madness, here, no real marbles will be awarded to the winner...), we have ...

Bill - Indians 1990-1999 vs. James - Cardinals 1980-1989


1. What was your team's winning percentage for the decade? (1 pt, to whoever is closer)
90's Tribe: 0.525, with an actual of 0.531, for a 0.006 difference.
80's Cards: 0.523, with an actual of 0.529, for a 0.006 difference!

You both get the point!

Bill 1, James 1

2. How many postseason appearances did your team make? (1 pt)
90's Tribe: 5, yes!
80's Cards: 3, yes!

Bill 2, James 2

3. Place each of the 10 seasons in order by team winning percentage:
90's Tribe:
1. 1995 - 1 pt
2. 1997 - actually 1996
3. 1998 - actually 1999
4. 1999 - actually 1994
5. 1996 - actually 1998
6. 1994 - actually 1997
7. 1993 - actually 1990
8. 1992 - 1 pt
9. 1990 - actually 1993
10. 1991 - 1 pt

80's Cards:
1. 1985 - 1 pt
2. 1982 - actually 1987
3. 1981 - 1 pt
4. 1987 - actually 1982
5. 1986 - actually 1989
6. 1984 - 1 pt
7. 1983 - actually 1986
8. 1980 - actually 1983
9. 1989 - actually 1988
10. 1988 - actually 1980

Both of you got 3 points here, with James' omission of 1984 and adding it back in the right spot being one of them. Bill had a slight advantage on this question as the Tribe had identical win percentages in 1992 and 1993, so either the 8th or 9th slot worked for those years.

Bill 5, James 5

4. Over the next 3 questions, we'll put together a roster for your team. Name the player who was your team's regular starter at each defensive position the most years: (1 pt each)
90's Tribe:
C: Sandy Alomar Jr. - Yes!
1B: Jim Thome - No, actually was Paul Sorrento with 4 seasons to Thome's 3.
2B: Carlos Baerga - Yes!
3B: Jim Thome - Yes!
SS: Omar Vizquel - Yes!
LF: Albert Belle - Yes!
CF: Kenny Lofton - Yes!
RF: Manny Ramirez - Yes!

80's Cards:
C: Tom Pagnozzi - No, actually was Darrell Porter
1B: Keith Hernandez - Yes, actually was Keith Hernandez/Jack Clark tied at 3 seasons each.
2B: Tommy Herr - Yes!
3B: Terry Pendleton - Yes!
SS: Ozzie Smith - Yes!
LF: Vince Coleman - Yes!
CF: Willie McGee - Yes!
RF: George Hendrick - Yes!

I was impressed with the fact that you both got all but one position right. I was expecting you to miss the positions you did, those struck me as the hardest in both cases, but I thought you might miss on one of the other ones simply due to brain fart.

Bill 12, James 12

5. Name the top 5 starting pitchers by games started:
90's Tribe:
1. Charles Nagy - 1.25 pts
2. Bartolo Colon - actually Orel Hershiser - 1 pt
3. Dennis Martinez - actually Bartolo Colon - 1 pt
4. Chad Ogea - actually Jaret Wright, Ogea was 7th, just behind Greg Swindell.
5. Orel Hershiser - actually Dennis Martinez - 1 pt

80's Cards:
1. Bob Forsch - 1.25 pts
2. Joaquin Andujar - 1.25 pts
3. Joe Magrane - actually Danny Cox -Magrane was 6th just behind LaPoint.
4. Danny Cox - actually John Tudor - 1 pt
5. John Tudor - actually Dave LaPoint - 1 pt

Nagy was the only starter to be a regular for the Indians for the entire decade. Nice work in both cases!

James 16.5, Bill 16.25

6. Name the top 5 relief pitchers by relief appearances (G-GS):
90's Tribe:
1. Eric Plunk - 1.25 pts
2. Paul Assenmacher - 1.25 pts
3. Paul Shuey - actually Jose Mesa - 1 pt
4. Jose Mesa - actually Paul Shuey - 1 pt
5. Mike Jackson - 1.25 pts

80's Cards:
1. Jeff Lahti - actually Todd Worrell - 1 pt
2. Todd Worrell - actually Ken Dayley - 1 pt
3. Ken Dayley - actually Bruce Sutter - 1 pt
4. Bruce Sutter - actually Jeff Lahti - 1 pt
5. Bob Forsch - actually Rickey Horton

So, I hope this question was worded clearly as relief appearances. Forsch is in the top 5 of Cardinals in terms of appearances, but most of those were starts. Rickey Horton made 44 starts, too, but it wasn't enough to push him off the list.

Bill 22, James 20.5

7. For each team, below is the draftee that has produced the most WAR (BB-Ref) from each draft class. Put them in order of draft pick, as if they had been drafted in the same draft.
For each of these, I've included the player's career WAR and some other picks of "note" from that draft class.

90's Tribe:
  • 1. Paul Shuey (1992) - Yes - Rnd 1, 2nd (6.1 WAR, Rnd 3, 70th pick Jon Nunnally had 4.8 WAR) - 2 pts
  • 2. Manny Ramirez (1991) - Yes - Rnd 1, 13th (64.8 WAR, Rnd 4, 112th pick Paul Byrd had 14.0 WAR, Rnd 44, 1148th pick Damian Jackson had 5.7 WAR, Herbert Perry (4.2), Chad Ogea (4.2), Pep Harris (2.7), and Albie Lopez (2.5) also) - 2 pts
  • 6. David Bell (1990) - CC Sabathia (1998) - Rnd 1, 20th - (50.5 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 3. CC Sabathia (1998) - Sean Casey (1995) - Rnd 2, 53rd (14.3 WAR) - 1 pts
  • 10. David Riske (1996) - Russell Branyan (1994) - Rnd 7, 185th (9.7 WAR, Rnd 1, 10th pick Jaret Wright had 3.5 WAR and Rnd 4, 101st pick Danny Graves had 4.8 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 8. Richie Sexson (1993) - David Bell (1990) - Rnd 7, 190th (12.7 WAR, Rnd 17, 460th pick Dave Mlicki had 4.9 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 5. Russell Branyan (1994) - Dustan Mohr (1997) - Rnd 9, 291st (1.7 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 7. Dustan Mohr (1997) - Richie Sexson (1993) - Rnd 24, 671st (15.5 WAR, Rnd 8, 223rd pick Steve Kline had 9.2 WAR and Rnd 47, 1303rd pick Dave Roberts had 7.9 WAR) - 1 pts
  • 4. Sean Casey (1995) - John Gall (1999) - Rnd 50, 1469th - (-0.1 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 9. John Gall (1999) - David Riske (1996) - Rnd 56, 1560th (6.6 WAR, Rnd 12, 363rd pick John McDonald has 5.3 WAR) - 1 pts
80's Cards:
  • 3. Todd Zeile (1986) - Joe Magrane (1985) - Rnd 1, 18th (11.2 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 4. Ray Lankford (1987) - Brian Jordan (1988) - Rnd 1s, 30th (30.8 WAR, Rnd 6, 158th pick Rheal Cormier had 8.0 WAR and Rnd 9, 236th pick Mark Clark had 4.6 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 2. Brian Jordan (1988) - Todd Zeile (1986) - Rnd 2s, 55th (15.9 WAR, Rnd 1, 23rd pick Luis Alicea had 9.8 WAR and Rnd 4, 104th pick Mark Guthrie had 8.2 WAR) - 1 pts
  • 5. Lance Johnson (1984) - Ray Lankford (1987) - Rnd 3, 72nd (35.7 WAR) - 1 pts
  • 10. Rick Aguilera (1980) - Lance Johnson (1984) - Rnd 6, 139th (27.8 WAR, Rnd 22, 554th pick Jeff Fassero had 21.6 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 1. Joe Magrane (1985) - Terry Pendleton (1982) - Rnd 7, 179th (25.1 WAR, Rnd 10, 257th pick Vince Coleman had 10.5 WAR, Rnd 1, 21st pick Todd Worrell had 10.1 WAR, and Rnd 11, 283rd pick Rob Dibble had 8.7 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 8. Danny Cox (1981) - Tom Pagnozzi (1983) - Rnd 8, 208th (6.6 WAR) - 1 pts
  • 6. Terry Pendleton (1982) - Danny Cox (1981) - Rnd 13, 319th (7.9 WAR, Rnd 1, 8th pick Bob Meacham had 3.3 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 7. Tom Pagnozzi (1983) - Bill Hurst (1989) - Rnd 20, 510th (0.1 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 9. Bill Hurst (1989) - Rick Aguilera (1980) - Rnd 37, 803rd (20.4 WAR, Rnd 2, 41st pick Dan Plesac had 15.9 WAR) - 1 pts
This question was, of course, incredibly hard. Bill remembered that Shuey was the 2nd overall pick and that Manny followed, and that was the big difference here.

Bill 29, James 24.5

8. Name 5 players who played the final game of their major league career for your team in this decade: (1 pt each)
90's Tribe:
Steve Olin - Yes, sadly enough. I remember the coverage of the accident fairly well.
Eddie Murray - No, Murray played for the Tribe in 1996, but was traded to Baltimore for Kent Mercker. He spent 1997 with the Angels and Dodgers.
Tony Pena - No, Pena also played for the Tribe in 1996, but spent 1997 with the White Sox and Astros.
Dennis Martinez - No, if only the world had ended in 1996! Martinez played for the Tribe that year, but spent 1997 in Seattle and 1998 in Atlanta.
Orel Hershiser - No, but at least he spent 1997 with the Tribe. He played 3 more years after that, with the Giants, Mets, and Dodgers.

80's Cards:
Jim Kaat - Yes! He ended his career after 24 appearances at age 44 in 1983.
Mark Littell - Yes! He never pitched after age 29 in 1982.
Gene Tenace - No, he had 53 games as a Pirate in 1983 after his two seasons in St. Louis.
Mike Dunne - No, he was actually drafted by the Cardinals and traded WITH Van Slyke and Lavalliere for Tony Pena. Dunn debuted with the Pirates in 1987 and retired after a stint with the White Sox in 1992.
John Stuper - No, he made 33 appearances, including 13 starts for the Reds in 1985 to end his 4 year MLB career.

IMO, a fun question that is remarkably challenging, particularly when there are old guys who hung on for another year.

Bill 30, James 26.5

9. Name 1 player who led their league (AL for Tribe, NL for Cards) in a statistic. Name the player, the statistic (e.g. HR's, RBI, etc.), and the year he led the league. (1 pt for each component = 3 pts total)
90's Tribe:
Albert Bell, 1995 HR's - Yes to all 3, and 50 is indeed the right number, but you don't get points for that bit.

80's Cards:
Vince Coleman, 1985 SB's - Yes to all 3, although your guess of 130 was a bit high of his 110. Incidentally, that was his rookie year and first of 3 100 SB seasons he had. Crazy to think about anyone doing that now. Guys like him and Rickey attempted to steal almost every chance they possibly had.

Bill 33, James 29.5


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Huzzah! Who knew my intimate knowledge of Paul Shuey would be so critical!?!? Nice matchup James. Since I got all those marbles for first place, I fully support your desire to create additional trivia as the runner-up prize.

One funny moment: while I was hopelessly guessing at the draft question, all I could think was "I should have picked the 50s Indians just to avoid this question".

Well done Frank. I had a blast.
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Here's Jason's extra ballot for the 1980's Red Sox

1. What was your team's winning percentage for the decade? (1 pt, to whoever is closer)
.525 - Yes, exactly right!

1 pt.

2. How many postseason appearances did your team make? (1 pt)
2 (1986 and 1988 I think) - Correct again!

2 pts

3. Place each of the 10 seasons in order by team winning percentage:
1. 1986 - 1 pt
2. 1988 - 1 pt
3. 1985 - actually 1982
4. 1987 - actually 1981
5. 1989 - actually 1984
6. 1980 - 1 pt
7. 1981 - actually 1989
8. 1982 - actually 1985
9. 1984 - actually 1987
10. 1983 - 1 pt

6 points

4. Over the next 3 questions, we'll put together a roster for your team. Name the player who was your team's regular starter at each defensive position the most years: (1 pt each)
C: Rich Gedman - Yes!
1B: Bill Buckner - Yes!
2B: Marty Barrett - Yes!
3B: Wade Boggs - Yes!
SS: Dave Stapleton - No, actually was Glenn Hoffman
LF: Jim Rice - Yes!
CF: Tony Armas - Yes, actually was Tony Armas/Ellis Burks with 3 seasons each
RF: Dwight Evans - Yes!

13 points

5. Name the top 5 starting pitchers by games started:
1. Roger Clemens - actually Bruce Hurst - 1 pt
2. Bruce Hurst - actually Roger Clemens - 1 pt
3. Oil Can Boyd - 1.25 pts
4. Al Nipper - actually Dennis Eckersley
5. Calvin Shiraldi - actually Bob Ojeda - Shiraldi was primarily a reliever

16.25 points

6. Name the top 5 relief pitchers by relief appearances (G-GS):
1. Bob Stanley - 1.25 pts
2. Lee Smith - actually Mark Clear - 1 pt
3. Wes Gardner - actually Steve Crawford
4. Greg Harris - actually Tom Burgmeier
5. Mike Boddiker - actually Lee Smith

18.5 points

7. For each team, below is the draftee that has produced the most WAR (BB-Ref) from each draft class. Put them in order of draft pick, as if they had been drafted in the same draft.
  • 5. Jeff Bagwell (1989) - Steve Lyons (1981) - Rnd 1, 19th (1.2 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 1/2.Roger Clemens (1983) - Yes, Rnd 1, 19th (133.9 WAR, Kirt Manwaring was the next best pick) - 2 pts
  • 9. Dave Magadan (1980) - Scott Cooper (1986) - Rnd 3, 69th (5.2 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 8. Phil Plantier (1987) - Mike Greenwell (1982) - Rnd 3, 72nd (23.7 WAR, Sam Horn was the 16th pick of this draft) - 0 pts
  • 4. Mike Greenwell (1982) - Jeff Bagwell (1989) - Rnd 4, 110th (76.7 WAR, Mo Vaughn, out of Norwalk, CT the town next to where I grew up was rthe 23rd pick. Paul Quantrill was drafted, too) - 1 pts
  • 10. Jack McDowell (1984) - John Valentin (1988) - Rnd 5, 121st (30.6 WAR, Tim Naehring was drafted this year) - 0 pts
  • 7. Brady Anderson (1985) - Yes, Rnd 10, 257th (32.2 WAR, Tino Martinez, Lance Blankenship, Todd Pratt, and Ed Sprague were all drafted by the Sox in '85) - 2 pts
  • 6. John Valentin (1988) - Phil Plantier (1987) - Rnd 11, 292nd (1.4 WAR) - 0 pts
  • 1/2. Steve Lyons (1981) - Dave Magadan (1980) - Rnd 12, 309th (19.2, Oil Can Boyd was this year, too) - 0 pts
  • 3. Scott Cooper (1986) - Jack McDowell (1984) - Rnd 20, 510th (25.6 WAR, Jody Reed was next best pick) - 0 pts
23.5 points

8. Name 5 players who played the final game of their major league career for your team in this decade: (1 pt each)
Bob Stanley - Yes, just barely, too given that his last year was 1989.
Dave Stapleton - Yes... and no. There was another Dave Stapleton who was with the Brewers in 1987 and 1988.
Jerry Remy - Yes, no stint with the Padres!
Tony Armas - No, he spent 3 years with the Angels.
Sam Horn - No, he actually played as late as 1995 with the Rangers. I'm a little disappointed that SoSH didn't sponsor his BB-Ref page.

26.5 points

9. Name 1 player who led their league (AL for Tribe, NL for Cards) in a statistic. Name the player, the statistic (e.g. HR's, RBI, etc.), and the year he led the league. (1 pt for each component = 3 pts total)
(Only stats listed on the standard annual BB-Ref leaderboards are eligible. I don't need the numeric league leading tally, just the stat name)
Player: Wade Boggs
Year: Hits
Stat: 1985

Yes to all

29.5 points total.
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Thanks for scoring! At least it was respectable. The draft questions stumped me and I should have thrown Eck in for starters. Darn.

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Speaking as a spectator, this was a real treat. Thank you, Frank, for coordinating this forum challenge. I'm not going to embarrass myself by telling you what my score for the 90s Indians would have been. :oops:
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Nutmeggers wrote:
80's Cards:
1. Jeff Lahti - actually Todd Worrell - 1 pt
2. Todd Worrell - actually Ken Dayley - 1 pt
3. Ken Dayley - actually Bruce Sutter - 1 pt
4. Bruce Sutter - actually Jeff Lahti - 1 pt
5. Bob Forsch - actually Rickey Horton

So, I hope this question was worded clearly as relief appearances. Forsch is in the top 5 of Cardinals in terms of appearances, but most of those were starts. Rickey Horton made 44 starts, too, but it wasn't enough to push him off the list.
Oh, you were perfectly clear, I just thought Forsch might actually make it on both lists. Looking at his stats, he did not make as many relief apperances as I had thought (just 33 for the Birds in the 80s). And as I had presumed, Ricky Horton was a guy that I am now kicking myself for forgetting. He's a current Cards' television announcer!

Sadly, Mr. Forsch passed away just a couple of weeks after the Cards won the World Championship last fall. He actually threw out the first pitch for one of the World Series games (7, I think). Interesting tidbit about Forsch: he was actually drafted as a third baseman, and didn't actually convert full-time to pitching until the third season after he was drafted. He was a very good hitting pitcher, too, at least early in his career, turning in three seasons with an OPS+ > 100, and hitting 12 career HRs. His best three seasons with the bat were pretty far-flung:

As a 25 year old in 1975 he hit 308/341/462, with 3 doubles, 3 triples (?!?) a homer and 5 RBIs. He was a 1.1 WAR offensive player.
As a 30 year old in 1980 he hit 295/313/474 with 5 doubles and 3 homers and 10 RBI. That was worth 1.2 WAR.
As a 37 year old in 1987 he hit 298/333/509 with 6 doubles, 2 HR, and 8 RBI. Another 1.2 WAR.

Nutmeggers wrote:
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Congrats, agaion, Bill! This was great fun!
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Re: MLB Trivia Challenge - Round 3 Finals!

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Warriors wrote:Huzzah! Who knew my intimate knowledge of Paul Shuey would be so critical!?!?
Only because Bill has kept Paul Shuey in the forefront of our eyes in his sig do I even have reason to gawk and share:

5 players were drafted ahead of Derek Jeter in the '92 draft. Amongst them, Bill's boy Paul Shuey!!

Also Phil Nevin - HOU, BJ Wallace - MON, Jeffery Hammonds - BAL and Chad Mottola - CIN
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Hmmm....Jeets...Paul Shuey....tough choice...at least Phil Nevin was a little good.

I was at a Durham Bulls (AAA) game a few years ago and Chad Mottola was on the other team. I think we watched him strike out 3 times looking. We wanted to name an ESPN segment "Frozen at the Plate" starring Chad Mottola. I think it was probably funnier after a beer or two.
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I was so excited every time I pulled a Jeffrey Hammonds rookie card out of a pack!
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