8:02 AM
Well. I’m here. And can wait to hear all the offers FLOOD in.
Michael - Hitmen
8:24 AM
They let people in already? I’ve been sleeping in a tent outside. Must have overslept
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Evan - Underground
8:57 AM
Wow Michael, a tent? No need to brag about your team's excessive spending!
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Mike - Borealis
9:13 AM
Good Morning Gents!!!
9:13
9:14
For our pre-meeting enjoyment, a musical interlude - oh… and there’s a. theme… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZxhQJC9hWk
YouTubeYouTube | Eagles
Eagles - Tequila Sunrise (Live From Melbourne) (Official Video) [4K]
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Sean - Claymores
9:15 AM
Please stick with the Eagles and not go Kenny Chesney next…
Michael - Hitmen
9:18 AM
Rolling deep in our $24.97 Walmart special Ozark Trail tent
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Today at 9:24 AMView thread
Mike - Borealis
9:20 AM
I did say there was a theme…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8wbTHzNcQQ
YouTubeYouTube | muddyjenkins
Eric Clapton - Sunshine Of Your Love
Tim - Warriors
9:22 AM
The Duluth front office team is here with an Americano in our Duluth Warriors coffee mug in hand.
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Kevin - Evas
9:24 AM
Hey, fellas!
Cristian - Dinosaurs
9:27 AM
Hey Kevin, hi everyone!
Mike - Borealis
9:28 AM
The Commish is having a straight-up black coffee, in the official Aurora Borealis mug, designed by the Owner of the Borealis - currently IRL all of 3...
Image from iOS
Image from iOS
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9:28
Hey Kevin! Hey Cristian!!
9:29
And… the hits keep rolling…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-43lLKaqBQ
YouTubeYouTube | The Animals Tribute Channel (unofficial)
The Animals - House of the Rising Sun (1964) HQ/Widescreen ♫ 59 YEARS AGO
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Mike - Borealis
9:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORBgHdVUMMs
YouTubeYouTube | Country At Its Finest
Bob Seger & Jason Aldean - Against The Wind (Live)
Tim - Warriors
9:40 AM
Nice mug, Mike. I love mine, but yours is wildly creative. Nice! (edited)
Brian - Tempe Apollos
9:41 AM
Greetings, gentlemen
Mike - Borealis
9:42 AM
It’s an aurora borealis
@Tim - Warriors
- they are kinda wild like that! Then again, she’s 3…
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Greg - Alleghenies
9:45 AM
Here willing to trade, reach out. Currently watching soccer.
@Mike - Borealis
COYS
Dylan - Wind Dancers
9:46 AM
Let's all laugh at United today
Mike - Borealis
9:46 AM
@Greg - Alleghenies
YNWA!!!
9:47
Theme… did anyone say theme….?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSs4jK6aicI
YouTubeYouTube | Mystic Plug Records
Kansas -- Dust In The Wind Official Live Video HD
RJ - Sandgnats
9:55 AM
Hey there Gentlemen!!
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Mike - Borealis
9:56 AM
How about laughing at both MAN teams
@Dylan - Wind Dancers
!!
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9:56
RJ!!
9:56
Lastly…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsY8l0Jg3lY
YouTubeYouTube | Ross Peeler
The Association - Windy - 1967
Greg - Alleghenies
9:56 AM
Worst Red card in years
Dylan - Wind Dancers
9:56 AM
As an Arsenal fan I'd love to, but no matter what happens now, Man City will end up at the top come end of the season
Yuma
10:00 AMAre we talkin’ baseball or some other ignominious sport?
Mike - Borealis
10:00 AM
~~ clearing the throat~~
10:00
The lovely Asheville Hotel, nestled in the Appalachian Mountains – the home of the Planetary Extreme Baseball Alliance, is once more the host of the Annual PEBA Winter Meetings. This year the GMs awake to a cold, crisp day, with a blanket of the season’s first snow fall – a perfect day for hanging inside and talking baseball.
10:02
A commotion arises from the back of the ball room and marching in crisp, matching suits is an entourage leading an equally dapper looking GM from Toyama, complete with aviator sunglasses… accompanied by the 2038 Toyama Anthem… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzhMzY5avLI
YouTubeYouTube | lxixsxaVEVO
LiSA - Rising Hope
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Evan - Underground
10:02 AM
European sports
Yuma
10:03 AMUgh.
Mike - Borealis
10:03 AM
The podium is on the stage at the Asheville Hotel Ballroom in Asheville, NC and as PEBA Commissioner ‘Harry’ Castle walks to the stage…
Patrick - Havana
10:03 AM
Mike - Borealis
10:03 AM
Welcome Ladies and Gentlemen – welcome to the 32nd Annual PEBA Winter Meetings!!
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Yuma
10:04 AMBravo, Harry!
Mike - Borealis
10:04 AM
Welcome everyone – GM’s, owners, and the few media members who have been permitted to attend the events – yes, George, I see you back there, you can put your hand down. Today we have a few items of League interest to discuss – but I’m sure that the bulk of the discussion will happen behind curtains and under the tables of the Ballroom…
10:04
Not now
@Greg - Alleghenies
- it’s not time to get under the tables…
Yuma
10:04 AMAnd beneath the sheets.
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Matt - Shisa
10:04 AM
come behind my curtain (371 kB)
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Lenny- Bears
10:04 AM
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:05 AM
what kind of meeting is this?
Patrick - Havana
10:05 AM
Ballroom Blitz!
Mike - Borealis
10:05 AM
Did anyone catch the pre-meeting entertainment theme?
Yuma
10:05 AMIt blew right by me.
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:06 AM
old guy rock
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10:06
right in my wheelhouse
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Sean - Kentucky
10:06 AM
Over my head
Mike - Borealis
10:06 AM
Before we get to the mundane, I hope you enjoyed our introductory music, chosen as we honor and congratulate the Toyama Wind Dancers and their GM, Dylan Krupilis, for their season – culminating in their first Rodriguez Cup – the club’s first title since winning the League of the Rising Sun in that league’s last season.
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Matt - Shisa
10:06 AM
Someone said 30 years ago and I immediately thought of the 70s.. only to realize it was the 90s.. =(
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Yuma
10:06 AMToo much wind.
Sean - Kentucky
10:07 AM
I had forgotten that some team in that other league won the cup this year.
Mike - Borealis
10:07 AM
They became the 4th club whose origins date back the the League of the Rising Sun to win a PEBA title - following in the footsteps of The Evil Evas, San Juan, and Niihama…
:skin-tone-3:3
Yuma
10:07 AMIf Toyama doesn’t repeat next year, we will undoubtedly be entertained by Mike’s selection of celebrities passing wind.
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Matt - Shisa
10:08 AM
Dylan? That was your 1st cup? Congrats!!
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RJ - Sandgnats
10:09 AM
Bravo!!!
Dan - Ghosts
10:09 AM
I’ll reiterate the congrats. RS forever.
Yuma
10:09 AMOh, Dylan’s in his cups now!
Matt - Shisa
10:09 AM
flash the RS gang symbol (2 MB)
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Mike - Borealis
10:09 AM
Lastly, I’d like to congratulate the 2038 Imperial League Champion Florida Farstriders and their GM Jay Amado for another fine season and their fifth IL title in six years.
:skin-tone-3:3
10:10
(or is that the Inferior League
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:10 AM
ouch
Mike - Borealis
10:10 AM
Speaking of Dylan, as previously mentioned – please send any trades you have in a separate Direct Message to me, Dylan and your trade partner. Please be sure to include the ACTUAL (not what you think) minor league level of any minor league player dealt. Once we announce the trade, please post it in the forums as normal. The Commish will then confirm the trades and adjust the Draft Pick Trade Tally.
:saluting_face:
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10:11
We will move through the four days of Winter Meetings throughout our time here and any announcements of signings will be made at that time. When we are done, we will have a new file posted for you to download.
Yuma
10:12 AMBingo!
Mike - Borealis
10:12 AM
ALERT: One of the most important things to remember is if you have Rule 5 players to protect, you must do so before Tuesday’s sim!!! Or forever hold your peace. No roster moves are allowed between Tuesday and Thursday’s sims. This is very important if you’ve traded for a Rule 5 eligible player!
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:13 AM
can we sticky that somewhere?
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Sean - Kentucky
10:13 AM
Damn rule 5 - always gets me
Michael - Hitmen
10:14 AM
I’ve have been guilty, please roster your guys
Mike - Borealis
10:14 AM
Cheers
, Cheers , and Cheers - let’s get this party started… We have our first trade of the 2038 Winter Meetings to announce!Yuma
10:14 AMPlease DON’T roster your guys. Give us losers a chance!
Mike - Borealis
10:15 AM
The Kalamazoo Badgers and the Shin Seiki Evas have agreed on a deal:
The Badgers send RP Ernest Middleton Japan in exchange for Shin Seiki’s 2039 8th round pick…
Matt - Shisa
10:16 AM
Aptly named Middleton for such a mid trade to kick us off.
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Evan - Underground
10:17 AM
Also aptly named Japan as he's now in the Rising Sun
Ron - Akira
10:17 AM
Hey fellas
:skin-tone-3:3
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10:17
Congrats to Dylan.
Dylan - Wind Dancers
10:18 AM
You picked the perfect time to rebuild Ron. Can't imagine the RS if you hadn't (edited)
Matt - Shisa
10:18 AM
Anyone looking to make a deal to qualify for those sweet CPs, hit Okinawa up
Greg - Alleghenies
10:18 AM
Congrats
@Dylan - Wind Dancers
Mike - Borealis
10:18 AM
Hey Ron!
10:19
We have a 2nd trade…
Ron - Akira
10:19 AM
@Dylan - Wind Dancers
I'll wait until you all backslide and then make my move.
:face_with_cowboy_hat:
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Yuma
10:20 AM@Matt - Shisa
Matt, Yuma is looking to trade. Whatcha need?
Mike - Borealis
10:20 AM
The Florida Featherheads - I mean Farstriders and the New jersey Hitmen have agreed on a deal:
New Jersey sends SS Kaleb Felton to Florida and the Fartriders send the Hitmen CF Don Washington (AAA) and Florida’s 2039 6th round draft pick
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Ron - Akira
10:21 AM
I need picks, prospects but doesn't everyone.
10:22
...and at least one trade.
Mike - Borealis
10:23 AM
OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!
Yuma
10:23 AMOh oh.
Ron - Akira
10:23 AM
I can absorb some salary if it's worth my while.
Mike - Borealis
10:24 AM
The Commissioner of the PEBA would like to announce the first member of the 2038 Hall of Fame Class…
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Yuma
10:24 AMDrum roll!
Michael - Hitmen
10:24 AM
First! More than 1?!
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Sean - Kentucky
10:25 AM
I am guessing 3 players inducted
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10:25
Hopefully
Yuma
10:25 AMWe need 10!
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Mike - Borealis
10:25 AM
“Hey Boo Boo, let me pull this plaque out of the pic-a-nic basket!”
:male-judge:
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Yuma
10:25 AMGo for it, Yogi!
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:25 AM
WOOOOT
RJ - Sandgnats
10:25 AM
Yayyyyyyyyy
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:25 AM
try, try again.
Kevin - Evas
10:25 AM
Well deserved
RJ - Sandgnats
10:25 AM
Yogi!! Yogi!!
Yuma
10:25 AMAbout time.
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Mike - Borealis
10:25 AM
Very well deserved!!
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:26 AM
interested as to what finally made him break loose this year?
RJ - Sandgnats
10:26 AM
@Brian - Tempe Apollos
deserves the credit for making him a Gnat.
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Yuma
10:26 AMYes, Brian, what?
Kevin - Evas
10:26 AM
He had been knocking on the door for a while, Brian
10:27
Over 50% for 5 years
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:27 AM
i'm still waiting for my first ever draftee to make it. none on the horizon though
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Yuma
10:27 AMYuma is waiting for one former Yuman Being to make it.
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:28 AM
great to see Robles join the immortals though. the biggest workhorse in PEBA's hstory
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Dylan - Wind Dancers
10:29 AM
It doesn't help that our first HoF player was Raines who set a massive bar
Yuma
10:29 AMDown with all bars!
RJ - Sandgnats
10:29 AM
PEC winner in 24 and 25 I believe?
Jay - Farstriders
10:32 AM
Only able to vaguely be around. Girlfriend decided today's a good to go engagement ring shopping.
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Yuma
10:33 AMOur condolences.
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Mike - Borealis
10:33 AM
Wow! Congrats!
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Sean - Kentucky
10:33 AM
Congrats!
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Mike - Borealis
10:33 AM
But… not a valid excuse…
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RJ - Sandgnats
10:33 AM
Rest in peace to your wallet!
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Yuma
10:33 AMA wise man would head for the hills.
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Sean - Kentucky
10:33 AM
Smart girlfriend - she must have heard about the winter meetings and planned this out.
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:34 AM
congrats.... i guess
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Mike - Borealis
10:34 AM
We have a 3rd trade for the 2038 Winter Meetings…
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RJ - Sandgnats
10:34 AM
8th and Walnut?
@Jay - Farstriders
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Today at 11:40 AMView thread
Mike - Borealis
10:35 AM
The Shin Seiki Evas and the London Underground have agreed on a deal:
London sends RP Juan Perez to The Evil Evas and in return the Evas send 3B Carlos Mendez (SS-A) and $750,000 to London
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Evan - Underground
10:36 AM
Kevin
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Andy - Fishermen
10:38 AM
Hello everyone
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RJ - Sandgnats
10:38 AM
Hey Andy!!
Mike - Borealis
10:38 AM
Hey Andy!!
10:39
ATTENTION:
:male-judge:
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10:40
We do have two points of discussion for this years Winter meetings…
Yuma
10:40 AMDissension?
Mike - Borealis
10:41 AM
There has been some discussion - really for a couple of seasons regarding the FA compensation issue as it relates to Qualifying Offers…
Matt - Shisa
10:42 AM
Oh no, not when I finally have one =P
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Mike - Borealis
10:42 AM
Currently. if you have an eligible FA, you can make a Qualifying Offer (~$15M) and if they decline and sign elsewhere, you get a pick in the Supplemental round, after the 1st round…
10:44
The question of… equity(?) comes up - who really benefits (I suppose), and should we move the compensation back a round or two (to the 2nd or 3rd) - or perhaps get rid of it all together?
10:44
@Matt - Shisa
I’m only the messenger…
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Greg - Alleghenies
10:45 AM
i say keep it as is
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Lenny- Bears
10:45 AM
I agree with Greg.
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Dan - Ghosts
10:45 AM
Eliminate it all together
Sean - Kentucky
10:45 AM
I am fine with it
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Yuma
10:45 AMI say do away with it.
Dan - Ghosts
10:45 AM
Free market!
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:46 AM
The players who reject the QO definitely aren't benefitting
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Michael - Hitmen
10:46 AM
Keep as is!
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:46 AM
bc they get signed in June
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Kevin - Evas
10:46 AM
I say eliminate it all together.
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:47 AM
i think if we keep it, we should raise the salary of the QO
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Evan - Underground
10:47 AM
It does have the effect of suppressing the already usually pretty weak FA classes
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Tim - Warriors
10:47 AM
I also agree with Greg. Keep it as is … Or perhaps raise the dollar amount (for next season and beyond).
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Greg - Alleghenies
10:47 AM
I am for raising the dollar amount
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James - Calzones
10:47 AM
I also say do away with it.
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:47 AM
salaries in the league are already pretty depressed
Kevin - Evas
10:48 AM
Except for Burroughs
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Sean - Kentucky
10:48 AM
Raising it would be good
Chuck - Trendsetters
10:48 AM
Okay. I'm in.
Matt - Shisa
10:48 AM
How about in future years its a supp pick after the 2nd round?
Patrick - Havana
10:49 AM
I like it as is but would favor moving the supplemental round after round 2; I agree with raising the qualifying offer amount
Yuma
10:49 AMOr after the 5th round.
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RJ - Sandgnats
10:49 AM
I think it benefits the mid market teams the most and should be kept
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Evan - Underground
10:49 AM
Raising seems a decent compromise
Yuma
10:49 AMBut it hurts those of us at the bottom of the league.
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Michael - Hitmen
10:50 AM
Put it to an official vote?
Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:50 AM
there's way too much good financial management in this league. we need a few wahoos going $60m over budget and having to re-calibrate on the fly to keep things interesting
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Today at 10:51 AMView thread
Mike - Borealis
10:50 AM
Hey Chuck!
Dylan - Wind Dancers
10:50 AM
I want to do the math for us, but the league that shall not be named uses the average salary of the top 125 players in the league for the QO amount
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Chuck - Trendsetters
10:50 AM
Hola!
Yuma
10:51 AMthe League that shall not be named has always been bad news. Let’s not imitate them.
Dylan - Wind Dancers
10:51 AM
replied to a thread:
there's way too much good financial management in this league. we need a few wahoos going $60m over budget and having to re-calibrate on the fly to keep things interesting
Both sides sides of that statement are completely wrong
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:51 AM
ah, if we can't change the QO amount, i'd in favor of getting rid of it
Chuck - Trendsetters
10:52 AM
I say leave it. Otherwise you have a rich get richer and poor get poorer situation.
Jaime - Kalamazoo
10:52 AM
Morning gentlemen. Better late than never
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Yuma
10:53 AM@Chuck - Trendsetters
What we have now is rich getting richer and poor stuck at the bottom.
Dylan - Wind Dancers
10:53 AM
The problem has been, the system is designed to help smaller teams who can't afford to keep star players get compensation when they leave. But historically, it has been a bigger benefit to big teams who are able to replace good players with good prospects. (edited)
Chuck - Trendsetters
10:54 AM
Good point.
Yuma
10:54 AMExactly. Yuma has never benefitted from it.
Kevin - Evas
10:54 AM
Small teams losing players to free agency is not a big problem. Most players are either extended, or traded.
I agree that the biggest beneficiaries are the big market teams. I've benefited myself.
Dylan - Wind Dancers
10:55 AM
My preferred options would be to move the comp pick back to the end of the 2nd or 3rd round OR axe the system
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10:55
Exactly Kevin
Andy - Fishermen
10:55 AM
I will vote for the picks to go to the later rounds OR axe
Dylan - Wind Dancers
10:55 AM
If small teams aren't benefitting, it's not serving it's purpose
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James - Calzones
10:55 AM
If we can't axe it, move it far enough down the draft order to benefit the teams that are struggling/rebuilding.
Mike - Borealis
10:55 AM
In fairness, I have had a few top players come from the Supp round…
RJ - Sandgnats
10:56 AM
It’s really the mid market teams below the big boys that need this help with QOs.
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Dylan - Wind Dancers
10:57 AM
@Mike - Borealis
And without the system, those players could've been in Yuma, SA, NO, etc
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Ron - Akira
10:57 AM
Lower the comp rd or get rid of it
Mike - Borealis
10:57 AM
That is true…
Michael - Hitmen
10:57 AM
With the way some people draft.. there is no guarantee of that Dylan
Jaime - Kalamazoo
10:58 AM
I like the idea of moving the QO amount up AND moving it back a round or two.
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Sean - Kentucky
10:58 AM
I have had a couple of picks but I screwed them up :)
Dylan - Wind Dancers
10:58 AM
To note, we won't be making a decision here today. We'll open a thread on the forums to discuss and any change would happen next offseason
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
10:58 AM
is the supp round moveable in-game?
Dylan - Wind Dancers
10:58 AM
It's easy to manually do
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10:58
Which we already do
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10:59
The in-game setting for what we want, wouldn't work
10:59
It changes the Comp pick round to be dependent on the salary of the player signed.
10:59
With 0 clarity to what those numbers are (edited)
Chuck - Trendsetters
11:00 AM
Would that system work, the in game system? It seems the more you pay (higher market teams) the higher the comp pick?
Mike - Borealis
11:00 AM
I would be against a system that was a mystery…
Yuma
11:01 AMAmen.
Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:01 AM
Yea, the system is to unknown with 0 detail in how it actually works
11:01
It's so much easier to do it manually
Chuck - Trendsetters
11:01 AM
Okay.
Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:01 AM
Like adding an extra line to a spreadsheet easy
Yuma
11:01 AMEven easier to get rid of it altogether.
Mike - Borealis
11:02 AM
I am hearing that there is a general thought that bumping the offer and moving back to the end of R2 might be a plan - question: If we are not getting a R1 Supp pick, would we then not lose a R1 pick for signing? Instead the R2 pick is lost?
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Michael - Hitmen
11:03 AM
Good question
Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:03 AM
the lost pick is the worst part of the system, afaic
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11:03
it discourages almost the entire league from signing these guys and kills their FA value
11:04
even if your 1st is protected you just lose one later
Yuma
11:04 AMSo let’s lose the whole system!
Andy - Fishermen
11:05 AM
Yes, I agree the lost pick is the issue there.
RJ - Sandgnats
11:05 AM
Has anyone like
@Frank - Amsterdam Lions
looked at the data?
Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:06 AM
I know the vast majority of comp picks have been from playoff teams
11:06
And very few below that
11:06
And hesitation to sign comp FA's is very much a thing
Kevin - Evas
11:06 AM
Not to mention we can game the system by trading away picks
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Mike - Borealis
11:07 AM
Truth!
Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:07 AM
Comp eligible players are arguably more likely to end up signing for a top team who is more willing to lose a 1st round pick
Matt - Shisa
11:07 AM
*5th round pick
Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:07 AM
No FA signings on day 1 by the way
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Mike - Borealis
11:08 AM
Four of the 7 potential picks this year are playoff teams - and one was close…
Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:09 AM
I'm leaning towards wanting to just axe the system altogether. Draft pick trading just makes it so abusable
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Last reply today at 11:17 AMView thread
Yuma
11:10 AMYes!
Mike - Borealis
11:10 AM
Let’s continue this excellent discussion in the Forum - we’ll create a new thread and add to it this part of the WM discussion - and I encourage everyone to add their ideas; I feel like we are formulating a potential change here…
Evan - Underground
11:11 AM
Burroughs is a great example of what the current QO situation can cause too, most of the other strong bat options are QO guys (they're mostly old too but that's less of a problem to teams probably)
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Mike - Borealis
11:12 AM
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13071
11:13
Meanwhile… We have our 4th trade of the WM…
11:14
New Jersey and San Antonio have agreed on a deal:
The Calzones saend Chris Brown SP to New Jersey in exchange for Bang-xao ‘Beetle’ You, Geremia Nebiolo (IC) and New Jersey’s 5th round pick
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11:15
ANNOUNCEMENT:
Sean - Kentucky
11:15 AM
Couple of ex Kentucky players
Mike - Borealis
11:15 AM
Speaking of New Jersey - the Hitmen have a change to announce…
@Michael - Hitmen
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Michael - Hitmen
11:16 AM
Thank you sir, first we would like to congratulate Dylan and the Wind Dancers on their big win this season. On that note…
The New Jersey Hitmen are proud of the accomplishment of Anastasio Bojórquez and the team in Hoboken. The 2038 NAFTA champions, your Hoboken Crooners!
To commemorate their spectacular season and the franchise’s first championship win since returning from the WIL, our Crooners will be receiving an updated look! The historic Crooners look and heritage is still there, but with a modern look!
New caps and gear will be presented to the media following the winter meetings.
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Andy - Fishermen
11:17 AM
Nice
Yuma
11:17 AMGroovy, dude!
Patrick - Havana
11:17 AM
Nice job on that logo and on winning the championship
Evan - Underground
11:17 AM
Love it
Yuma
11:17 AMLooks like Leonard Cohen.
Michael - Hitmen
11:18 AM
You know me, need to keep my franchises logos in a unified theme… so more to come
Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:18 AM
Looks great
Sean - Kentucky
11:18 AM
Nice!
Mike - Borealis
11:18 AM
As always, an excellent job by Mikey #1!! (edited)
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Chuck - Trendsetters
11:18 AM
Amazing work!
RJ - Sandgnats
11:19 AM
Bravo!!
Matt - Shisa
11:20 AM
I cant for the life of me find where in the forum the picks list is. Could someone please point me in the right direction?
Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:20 AM
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=12993
Sean - Claymores
11:21 AM
Two more quick thoughts on qualifying offers, aren’t certain teams protected from losing their first draft pick currently? Also, if small market teams believe they’ll have a shot at a guy without the QO…this is just not gonna happen. I’d argue they have a better shot now, because the demand for those players will increase if your remove the comp tag.
Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:21 AM
Top 11 picks are always protected UNLESS they are traded away
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Mike - Borealis
11:21 AM
And we have a 5th trade for the 2038 WM…
Thad - Malts
11:21 AM
Good afternoon all, poking my head in here while I'm working on getting my house ready to sell. Will circle back with trade block.
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Sean - Claymores
11:21 AM
Thanks
@Dylan - Wind Dancers
!
Michael - Hitmen
11:21 AM
More trades!
Mike - Borealis
11:21 AM
Shin Seiki and Baksfield have agreed on a deal:
The Bears send RP Fernando Sanchez (PEBA) and the Evas send RP Sebastian De Roode and SP Pedro Strickland (R) to Bakersfield…
Michael - Hitmen
11:22 AM
More Hall of Famers!
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Mike - Borealis
11:23 AM
Did someone ask for more?? Well there is one team who will be excited…
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11:23
ANNOUNCEMENT:
Yuma
11:23 AMWho?
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Mike - Borealis
11:23 AM
Our second member of the 2038 Hall of Fame Class…
Yuma
11:24 AMYes?
Mike - Borealis
11:24 AM
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Yuma
11:24 AMWE DID IT!!!!
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:24 AM
the tension was palpable
Yuma
11:24 AMThank you, thank you, thank you all!
11:24
I can die now. Life is complete.
Michael - Hitmen
11:24 AM
Solid arm that Clubhouse had
Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:24 AM
congrats to Bob and Gunner
Yuma
11:24 AMMerci.
Patrick - Havana
11:25 AM
Gunnah!
Evan - Underground
11:25 AM
Definitely well deserved, an impressive career
Chuck - Trendsetters
11:25 AM
Congrats Bob!
Sean - Claymores
11:25 AM
About time!
Yuma
11:25 AMAmen.
Matt - Shisa
11:25 AM
Has a face that only a parent who would consider naming their child Gunner would love.
Mike - Borealis
11:25 AM
Gunner had been on the ballot since the first HoF vote…
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Michael - Hitmen
11:25 AM
He barely skated by with the 75% preposterous
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Yuma
11:25 AMThey’ll be dancing in the streets in Yuma tonight!
Mike - Borealis
11:26 AM
And look at that - the Bulldozer Legacy lives on!!
Yuma
11:26 AMThem Dozers!
Michael - Hitmen
11:26 AM
Love that it has the old logo!
11:26
Love the new one, but fun to see
Chuck - Trendsetters
11:27 AM
Actually they will be dancing in 'the street'. Yuma only has one I think.
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Sean - Claymores
11:27 AM
Yumanbeings rejoice!
Yuma
11:27 AM@Chuck - Trendsetters
Read the novel, Chuck, you’ll discover a few more streets.
Mike - Borealis
11:28 AM
I can’t wait for that novel!!
11:28
Now you have an ‘Afterwards’…
Yuma
11:28 AMThe novel is in its final edit, should be to the printer by the end of October.
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Mike - Borealis
11:28 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT:
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Sean - Kentucky
11:28 AM
I like all these announcements
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Mike - Borealis
11:28 AM
@Dylan - Wind Dancers
…
Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:29 AM
Let the miracles keep rolling, we have TWO FA signings to announce
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Greg - Alleghenies
11:29 AM
COYS!!!!
Mike - Borealis
11:29 AM
GRRRRRR…
Chuck - Trendsetters
11:30 AM
I missed somthing. How are FA being signed right now?
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Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:30 AM
The Palm Spring Codgers have signed not one, but two free agents:
C Nolan McMahon for 2 years $6m
2B Manual Jimenez for 5 years $67m
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:31 AM
the WM are 4 days, they're advancing in-game a day at a time
Jay - Farstriders
11:31 AM
What time does the WM run until?
Chuck - Trendsetters
11:31 AM
Ahhh. Great idea!
Michael - Hitmen
11:31 AM
Bah, didn’t even get a chance to throw in a counter proposal, 1 sim of this is my offer and he’s gone!
Evan - Underground
11:32 AM
Former Underground backup catcher Nolan McMahon securing a nice little bag for himself, good for him
11:32
Wish him nothing but success in Palm Springs!
Michael - Hitmen
11:32 AM
Good pick up
@Rob - Codgers
of ‘Shameless’. I’ve been eyeing him from my time in the WIL when I failed to get a trade in for him. (edited)
Mike - Borealis
11:33 AM
we have another…
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11:33
ANNOUNCEMENT:
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11:33
I’d like to invite
@Chuck - Trendsetters
to the stage with exciting news!!
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Michael - Hitmen
11:34 AM
Love it! So much going on. This is why the WM rules (edited)
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Evan - Underground
11:34 AM
Mike hit the sauce a bit early today I think, he is feelin' it on stage today
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RJ - Sandgnats
11:34 AM
Yay Chuck!!
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Chuck - Trendsetters
11:34 AM
Trips on the way up
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Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:34 AM
Watch out for those bowling balls
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Chuck - Trendsetters
11:35 AM
The Trendsetters have had the same logo for more than three decades, so it is time for a change.
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Chuck - Trendsetters
11:36 AM
And that is the wrong logo.
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Today at 11:36 AMView thread
Jay - Farstriders
11:36 AM
Farstriders are back in the offices and ready to deal!
Sean - Claymores
11:36 AM
Single now
@Jay - Farstriders
?
Mike - Borealis
11:36 AM
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Chuck - Trendsetters
11:36 AM
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Matt - Shisa
11:36 AM
Wrong logo or right logo?
Patrick - Havana
11:36 AM
Noice! Love it!
Yuma
11:37 AMThey look the same.
Sean - Kentucky
11:37 AM
Wow! Awesome. That will be worth at least 3.7 WAR in the standings this season (edited)
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Matt - Shisa
11:37 AM
I think the second logo has more pink in the purple?
Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:37 AM
It's.... dare I say ..... Trendy
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RJ - Sandgnats
11:37 AM
Congrats Chuck so happy for your decision on the logo!!!
Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:37 AM
all the kids will be sporting it
Matt - Shisa
11:38 AM
Wow, the same logo the last 30 years? All the way back to the 1970s!
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Chuck - Trendsetters
11:38 AM
The logo keeps a nod to the old logo with the pimp hat and includes some New Orleans staples such as the Purple, Gold and green colors of Mardi Gras and the Voodoo head.
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Evan - Underground
11:38 AM
Great stuff Chuck
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Sean - Claymores
11:38 AM
Good, I wanted all pimps represented equally.
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Chuck - Trendsetters
11:38 AM
We also have new unis to display.
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Sean - Kentucky
11:39 AM
Pimps need love too!
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Evan - Underground
11:39 AM
Chuck keeping the pimp hand hat strong
Matt - Shisa
11:39 AM
Pimps just need their bottom b
Chuck - Trendsetters
11:39 AM
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Matt - Shisa
11:40 AM
Lakers and Yankees Unite!
Evan - Underground
11:40 AM
It's perfect
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Patrick - Havana
11:40 AM
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Mike - Borealis
11:40 AM
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Jay - Farstriders
11:40 AM
replied to a thread:
8th and Walnut? @Jay - Farstriders
Hahaha! Indeed!
Michael - Hitmen
11:40 AM
Love the uniqueness of it
Mike - Borealis
11:40 AM
Digging the 70's Pirates look…
Yuma
11:40 AMDig the colors!
Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:40 AM
strong disco vibes
Chuck - Trendsetters
11:41 AM
My thanks to Mike B for all his help and the advice from Mike in Jersey as well.
11:41
Brian, It is a 70's Pirates era type cap.
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Michael - Hitmen
11:41 AM
Great job guys!
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Mike - Borealis
11:42 AM
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Sean - Claymores
11:43 AM
They say if you wait long enough, styles comeback.
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Chuck - Trendsetters
11:44 AM
If we keep finishing near the bottom we can move to Savannah and become the Bananas.
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Mike - Borealis
11:44 AM
And… we have a 6th trade of this WM….
Michael - Hitmen
11:44 AM
These trades are lagging
Mike - Borealis
11:45 AM
Okinawa and Yuma have agreed on the following:
The Shisa send SP Mason Brock (R) to Yuma in exchange for SP Tommy Atkins (AAA)
Matt - Shisa
11:45 AM
@Michael - Hitmen
, you're telling me!
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11:46
Come get your trades in with Okinawa, its almost 3am and we're getting loopy!
Mike - Borealis
11:46 AM
and…
11:46
ANNOUNCEMENT:
Sean - Claymores
11:46 AM
Unfair advantage
@Matt - Shisa
can see into the future
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11:46
Unfair advantage
@Matt - Shisa
can see into the future
Yuma
11:46 AMHe’s actually living in the past.
Mike - Borealis
11:47 AM
As we all know, the PEBA expanded their playoffs this past year, adding a 3rd WC. What you may not have noticed is that the Minor leagues remained unchanged…
:thinking_face:
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11:48
Starting with the 2039 season, the minor leagues - AAA, AA, A and Short A will all reflect this change (and give more teams to gain those Minor League Playoff CP’s)…
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Yuma
11:49 AMEvan - Underground
11:49 AM
More baseball!
Mike - Borealis
11:49 AM
The Rookie League playoffs include the 1st and 2nd place teams from each division. If there is no dissent, I would like to bump that to the top three teams, with the 1st place team getting a bye…
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Today at 11:53 AMView thread
Kevin - Evas
11:50 AM
I love the new logo.
@Chuck - Trendsetters
(edited)
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Yuma
11:50 AMDo it, Mike!
Michael - Hitmen
11:51 AM
More hall of famers??
Sean - Kentucky
11:51 AM
8 more :)
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Sean - Claymores
11:51 AM
Wait, the minor leagues have playoffs?
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Today at 11:52 AMView thread
Sean - Kentucky
11:52 AM
replied to a thread:
Wait, the minor leagues have playoffs?
Haha! I was thinking the same thing
Mike - Borealis
11:52 AM
… wow…
11:52
Ok… we have our 6th trade of the WM - and this one is a biggie…
Michael - Hitmen
11:53 AM
Ooo spicey!
11:53
Bring it!
Jay - Farstriders
11:53 AM
replied to a thread:
The Rookie League playoffs include the 1st and 2nd place teams from each division. If there is no dissent, I would like to bump that to the top three teams, with the 1st place team getting a bye…
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Mike - Borealis
11:53 AM
The Kalamazoo Badgers and Tempe Apollos have agreed on the following:
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11:54
Tempe sends SP Tetsui Suzuki to Kzoo and the Badgers send the Apollos C Claudio Perez
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:54 AM
chicks dig the longball
Michael - Hitmen
11:54 AM
faint (754 kB)
Posted using /giphy
Mike - Borealis
11:55 AM
Correction… 7th trade…
Evan - Underground
11:55 AM
Good ol fashioned baseball trade
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Mike - Borealis
11:56 AM
and…
11:57
ANNOUNCEMENT:
Sean - Claymores
11:57 AM
Half price jerseys at the Aurora Borealis team store?
Mike - Borealis
11:57 AM
We have our final member of the 2038 Hall of Fame class - and this guy needs no introduction…
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:58 AM
No doubter
Evan - Underground
11:58 AM
Absolutely
Sean - Kentucky
11:58 AM
Nice
Michael - Hitmen
11:58 AM
Yay! 3 HOF, not shabby
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Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:58 AM
84.4%?
Michael - Hitmen
11:58 AM
Good guess by the way
Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:58 AM
yeah
11:58
so
11:58
84%
Yuma
11:58 AM3 HOF is too few.
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Today at 12:00 PMView thread
Brian - Tempe Apollos
11:58 AM
let's shame someone
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Chuck - Trendsetters
11:59 AM
I'd like to know how many votes he got. Looks like an automatic HOF.
Michael - Hitmen
11:59 AM
Bring on the shame for non-voters!
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Matt - Shisa
11:59 AM
Enrique looking like Jon Bernthal
Sean - Claymores
11:59 AM
Damn writers
Sean - Kentucky
11:59 AM
Do we have not on first ballot people here? :)
Dylan - Wind Dancers
11:59 AM
4/5 HoF metrics above the average and only 84% voted for him
Jay - Farstriders
12:00 PM
replied to a thread:
3 HOF is too few.
Wayyyyy too few.
Greg - Alleghenies
12:00 PM
My boy enrique
Dylan - Wind Dancers
12:00 PM
And the 5th is about 4-5 points off
Jay - Farstriders
12:00 PM
I'd like to hear the reasoning from the people who don't vote for anyone.
Brian - Tempe Apollos
12:00 PM
also, he won like 8 golden arms
12:01
so there's that
Yuma
12:01 PMmaybe we should consider serious penalties for not voting for HOF. Like loss of first round draft pick and reduction of operating budget.
Brian - Tempe Apollos
12:01 PM
diversion of revenue to Yuma
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Sean - Kentucky
12:01 PM
It is 84 percent of people that voted
Dylan - Wind Dancers
12:01 PM
Not voting is one problem. Voting and voting for no one is a bigger problem
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Today at 12:12 PMView thread
Mike - Borealis
12:02 PM
Right
@Dylan - Wind Dancers
??
Brian - Tempe Apollos
12:02 PM
That's a thing?
Yuma
12:02 PMHow many managers simply did not submit a ballot?
Patrick - Havana
12:03 PM
I already get operating budget reductions without factoring in HOF voting: (#killmyowner)
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Mike - Borealis
12:03 PM
So this year we had 32 votes - 31 from current GMs.
Tim - Warriors
12:03 PM
An odd coincidence … My favorite player of all time in my other league is named Enrique Vazquez … also a SP and also with 200+ career wins.
Yuma
12:03 PMSo only one non-voting manager?
Mike - Borealis
12:03 PM
I will tell you that the last vote came in last night and was the difference between a class of 3 and a class of 1 - so it is critical for everyone to vote!
Sean - Kentucky
12:04 PM
Wow
Jaime - Kalamazoo
12:04 PM
I have forgotten to vote in the past, but I remembered this year... Although I did not vote for many to be let into the HOF.
Evan - Underground
12:04 PM
Unnamed procrastinator, you are a hero today
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Mike - Borealis
12:04 PM
Yes,
@Yuma
, we have a few old-timers who I send ballots to, only one responded…
Brian - Tempe Apollos
12:04 PM
We had 5 folks not vote for Vazquez?
Sean - Kentucky
12:04 PM
Good math!!!
Brian - Tempe Apollos
12:05 PM
Where's my lantern and pitchfork
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Mike - Borealis
12:05 PM
Here are the results - also posted in the forum (I’ll work on the pictures appearing later):
27 – 84.4% - Enrique ‘Old Nick’ Vazquez - SP
24 – 75.0% - Gunner “Clubhouse” MacGruder - SP
24 – 75.0% - Francisco ‘Yogi’ Robles - SP
19 - 59.04% - Chris ‘Jitters’ Long - SS
17 – 53.1% - Fred Benjamin - SP
16 – 50.00% - Mike ‘Big Whiskey’ Britt – 3B
17 – 53.1% - German Hernandez - C
17 – 53.1% - Steve McDonald – 2B
17 – 53.1% - Wilson Munoz – 1B
16 – 50.0% - Andres Hernandez – 1B
14 - 45.16% - Alfredo ‘R’ Aranda - CL
14 - 45.16% - Ronald Lowry - SS
8 - 25.81% - Felipe ' El Niño’ Dias – 1B
6 - 19.35% - Jerry Long - OF
6 - 19.35% - Neil Maes - SP
5 - 16.13% - Alex ‘Red Hook’ Bothwell – 1B
5 - 16.13% - Pedro Ferringo - DH
4 - 12.90% - Ieyoshi Ishikawa - CF
2 - 6.45% - Paul Carlisle - OF
2 - 6.45% - Narahiko Imada – 1B
1 - 3.23% - John Gray - RP
Yuma
12:05 PMSo instead of penalties, maybe rewards for each vote for an HOFamer. If you vote for 1-5 players, you get a bonus. Vote for 6-8, a bigger bonus. Vote for 9-10 players and get … something!
Evan - Underground
12:05 PM
Woof, big gap to make up for Long and everyone else
Dylan - Wind Dancers
12:06 PM
Well then people will vote regardless of quality
Sean - Kentucky
12:06 PM
Damn Aranda only got 45... had higher hopes.
Yuma
12:06 PMWho cares? They will vote. Any player nominated is worthy.
Brian - Tempe Apollos
12:06 PM
Hmm, I expected to see Lowry trending up
Jaime - Kalamazoo
12:06 PM
I believe I voted for 4. I thought there was a huge gap between the guys who were good players and those who are HOF material.
Evan - Underground
12:06 PM
I am surprised we haven't offered CP as an incentive to vote in HoF like we do in other circumstances
Jaime - Kalamazoo
12:07 PM
That big gap is probably where I drew my line. The names look about right.
Matt - Shisa
12:07 PM
Isn’t there CP for voting?
Evan - Underground
12:07 PM
I didn't think so for HoF
Mike - Borealis
12:08 PM
I have felt like you shouldn’t need to be rewarded for the HoF vote - that’s an honor to be able to vote…
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Yuma
12:08 PMNice sentiment, Mike, but it’s not working.
Dylan - Wind Dancers
12:08 PM
Again, the problem isn't really not voting. It's the undervaluing of HoF eligible players.
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Mike - Borealis
12:08 PM
We did get 31 of 32 GMs voting - I think that’s the best we have had…
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Dylan - Wind Dancers
12:09 PM
Two very different problems
Brian - Tempe Apollos
12:09 PM
good news, we're trending in the right direction this yr
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Matt - Shisa
12:09 PM
Just like it’s an honor just for some of these players to be nominated and not voted in :p
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Jaime - Kalamazoo
12:09 PM
@Dylan - Wind Dancers
Do you mean more guys should be in the HoF?
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Today at 12:10 PMView thread
Brian - Tempe Apollos
12:09 PM
both in terms of # of votes and enshrinees
Yuma
12:09 PMSo, we need to encourage people to vote for more candidates. Or, lower the percentage required to be elected. Why not 50%?
Sean - Kentucky
12:09 PM
Yeah 32 votes is a good number
Dylan - Wind Dancers
12:09 PM
@Jaime - Kalamazoo
There are always some very obvious HoF worthy guys that never get in.
Evan - Underground
12:09 PM
Well there's a 16 point gap for Chris Long to make up as the best of the rest, so either it's first ballot guys from here on out or folks are going to have to lower their thresholds haha
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Michael - Hitmen
12:09 PM
So your saying shaming worked?
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Dylan - Wind Dancers
12:09 PM
Vazquez should be an EASY 100%
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Matt - Shisa
12:09 PM
Could just say every ballot needs to vote for at least 5
Yuma
12:10 PMAt least 10!
Jaime - Kalamazoo
12:10 PM
I agree, Vazquez should have. Generally , I think people make hall of fame's more of a hall of very good, which is not the same. I like the idea of some very good players never making it. Vazquez should absolutely be in though.
Evan - Underground
12:11 PM
You could argue Vazquez was so good that he made the others look less worthy in comparison...but even he only got 84%!
Michael - Hitmen
12:11 PM
Tough crowd
Chuck - Trendsetters
12:11 PM
There was a writer in Philadelphia who would never vote for a first ballot hall of famer. His reasoning was that babe Ruth was not a unanimous choice, so nobody should be. He forgot that the first time they had a HOF vote it included all of the players from the previous 30-40 years. It was a stupid reason.
Jay - Farstriders
12:12 PM
replied to a thread:
Not voting is one problem. Voting and voting for no one is a bigger problem
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Dylan - Wind Dancers
12:12 PM
Vazquez has more Golden Arm awards than any other pitcher ever, it's not even debatable he should've been in.
12:12
@Chuck - Trendsetters
And that dude is a dickhead
Dylan - Wind Dancers
12:12 PM
Though he's from Philly so that's redundant
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Last reply today at 12:15 PMView thread
Mike - Borealis
12:12 PM
There was a first ballot hall of famer that nobody wanted to vote for and he’s not in as a result…
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Last reply today at 12:15 PMView thread
Yuma
12:12 PMEventually, the PEBA’s history will be stored in its HoF, much like Cooperstown holds the history of the MLB. If we only elect a couple players each year, our history--and our memory of that history--is limited, pathetic. If we elect more players, we remember and we honor more of our history. An INCLUSIVE hall should be our goal.
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Today at 12:14 PMView thread
Evan - Underground
12:13 PM
This is tangentially related but is there a mechanism for teams to retire numbers in game? I know OOTP has the feature but unsure if we can act on it as an online league/level of admin involvement necessary
Mike - Borealis
12:14 PM
Yes!
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Evan - Underground
12:14 PM
It'd be nice for teams to be able to honor their guys who may not make the Hall but who do deserve team recognition. Chris Long being a London example haha
Mike - Borealis
12:14 PM
But you can only retire it once - so if multiple players had that same number, you can’t retire both…
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12:15
Tugboat was also #42…
Frank - Amsterdam Lions
12:15 PM
What’d I miss?
Mike - Borealis
12:16 PM
Frank!!
Evan - Underground
12:16 PM
Can we do that ourselves or does it have to get done by the admin account in order to stick?
Matt - Shisa
12:16 PM
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Brian - Tempe Apollos
12:16 PM
@Frank - Amsterdam Lions
the Evas acquired a Middle Reliever and everything went to hell
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