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FA Pick Compensation

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Newly Updated with the List for 2037!

I noticed something when looking at some of the top FAs' demands that is worth pointing out to the league, as it may have flown under the radar a little bit.

Some players, if you go to the contract offer page, will have a note that says Signing this player may result in the loss of a draft pick. This means the free agent is compensation-eligible by the implemented-in-OOTP 2012 Collective Bargaining Rules. This is what replaced the old Type A/Type B free agent rules.

What does it mean to sign a compensation-eligible free agent? According to the OOTP16 online rules, it means:
OOTP wrote:
  • Draft pick compensation will only be received for lost free agents who spent the entire season with one team
  • A team that signs a compensation-eligible player forfeits its first-round draft selection, unless it selects in the top 10 (or top third of the league), in which case it forfeits its second-highest selection. (This is an important change for OOTP leagues. Leagues using the new CBA rules should begin to see fewer picks in the first few rounds of their drafts than there are teams in the league. This is because teams are forfeiting picks when they sign compensation-eligible players. Some teams may forfeit multiple picks, meaning rounds other than Round 1 will be affected.)
  • The player's former team receives a selection in the supplemental round of the draft, not the signing team's pick.
EDIT: Here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2037, alphabetically:
SP Chris Brown
CF Guang 'Strider' Liu
CF Francisco Rodríguez
SP Scotty Shorland
CF Pat Watson
SS Bang-xao 'Beetle' You

If you are thinking of signing any of these fellows, be aware it may cost you a draft pick in addition to their salary!

Finally! Note that there is potentially an additional wrinkle in the free agent lists as well.
In some past years there were some free agents listed as compensation-eligible, but who played in the WIL previously rather than PEBA; signing any of those players will NOT cost you a draft pick.
For 2037, there is one such player: LF Tony Velázquez. He can be signed without suffering any draft-pick penalty.

Archive of past seasons' lists
EDIT: Here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2036, alphabetically:
SP Joe Arnold
SP Ramón Gonzáles
LF River McCausland

EDIT: Here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2035, alphabetically:
3B Jorge Aguilar
LF Steve Boyer
LF Danny 'Hitman' Burton
SS Francisco Montoya
SP Ju-hyung Park
SP Ángel Valdéz

EDIT: Here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2034, alphabetically:
RF Clarence Carpenter
SP José 'Slap' Fernández
SP Lance 'Mole' Harris
RF Claudio 'Matchbox' Hernández
CF Rubén Jiménez
RF Tomás Martínez
SP Dean McNeil
3B Matthias Ouellette
LF Mike Rose
1B António Vega
SP Pat Willis

EDIT: Here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2033, alphabetically:
RF Pat Barry
1B Alex Bothwell
LF Garry Charron
2B Hai-liang Choe
SS Brian Coleman
1B Brad Davis
SP Eric Elliott
CF Nick Heath
SS Naomi Honma
1B Gustavo López
RF Roberto Martinez
1B Wilson Muñóz
LF Tom Patton
LF Pedro Rodríguez
3B Antonio Santos
SP Enrique Vázquez

EDIT: Here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2032, alphabetically:
SP Tony Cuellar
LF Walter Daniel
2B José Gonzalés
LF Bartolo Mora
LF Gabe Moran
C Tony Parker
RF Carlos Ryan
SP Takanobu Shirai
RF Alfredo Torres
RF Tony Velázquez
RF Shane Willis

EDIT: Here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2031, alphabetically:
SP Kenny Ashley
RF Paul Carlisle
3B Luis Cedeño
SP Orlando Garcia
3B Guillermo Justavo
1B Dave Petersen
3B Marcos Sánchez
3B Harley Schneider
SP John Turner
3B Christian Webb

EDIT: Here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2030, alphabetically:
2B Derrick Dwyer
CF Tomás Flores
3B Adrián Fuentes
C Germán Hernández
SS Juan Hernández
C Ryan Lambert
SP Neil Maes
LF Kelvin McDonald
LF Jerry Rutledge
SP Oniji Yokoyama

EDIT: Here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2029, alphabetically:
RF Pat Barry (signed by Scottish 1/19/29, lost by New Orleans)
2B Hai-liang Choe (signed by Yuma 2/14/29, lost by Reno)
SS Mark Edwards (retained by Hartford)
RP Jim Ratzlaff (not supplemental pick eligible)
SP Cristo Santiago (signed by Okinawa 2/8/29, lost by Fargo)
SP José Santos (signed by Neo-Tokyo 2/4/29, lost by Canton)
Last year there were some free agents listed as compensation-eligible, but who played in the WIL previously rather than PEBA; signing any of those players will NOT cost you a draft pick.
For 2029, there is just one such player: CL Aurelio López. He can be treated just like any other regular, non-compensation-eligible free agent.

EDIT: Here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2028, alphabetically:
RF Pat Barry (signed by New Orleans 3/4/28; lost by Arlington)
DH Pedro Ferringo (signed by Reno 2/23/28; lost by Aurora)
SP Bill Gallagher (signed by Florida 12/16/27); lost by Kentucky)
C Yosuke Imai (signed by Scotland 2/6/28; lost by Havana)
C Ryan Lambert (signed by Canton 2/5/28; lost by Amsterdam)
CF Bruce McGuire (signed by London 3/28/28; lost by Duluth)
CL Pat Miller (signed by Okinawa 12/29/27; lost by Neo-Tokyo)
SP Valentim Ornelas (signed by New Orleans 3/4/28; lost by Florida)
SP Martin Ramírez (signed by London 3/14/28; was with Havana)
LF Pedro Rodriguez (DOB 10/14/00) (signed by Kentucky 1/7/28 to retain player)
SP Eduardo Romano (signed by Hartford 1/1/28; lost by Amsterdam)
SP Takanobu Shirai (signed by Okinawa 1/17/28; lost by New Orleans)
SP Clark Snow (signed by London 4/3/28; lost by Aurora)
SP John Turner (signed by Aurora 2/7/28; lost by New Orleans)

EDIT: Okay, I missed a couple seasons :-x but here are the compensation-eligible FAs for 2027, alphabetically:
SP Víctor Carrillo
RF Matt Carter
C Scott Francis
2B Dave Hurley
CL David López
SP Félix Maese
LF Don Mercer
RF Gilbert Murray
CL Jorge Núñez
1B Rob Raines
There are some free agents listed as compensation-eligible, but who played in the WIL last year rather than PEBA; signing any of those players (very briefly, for 2027 they are: SP Brian Butler, RP Tadao Harada, RP Sadao Ichihada, SP Jorge Jiménez, SP Avery Parkinson, CL Mauro Sánchez, SP Raúl Sánchez, and SP Greg White) will NOT cost you a draft pick.

Okay, so who are the compensation-eligible free agents for 2023? From what I can determine there are a dozen of them. In alphabetical order, they are:
LF Arthur Collins
CL Raúl Cruz
3B Matsusuke Hamada
LF Ieyoshi Ishikawa
SP Clayton Lewis
RF Miguel Martínes
2B Raúl Medina
RP Davis Sutherland
CL Larry Taylor
C Scott Vinson
DH Decheng Wen
SP Jun'ichi Yoshino

EDIT: And the compensation-eligible FAs for 2024 are, alphabetically:
RF Matt Carter
C Harry Crawford
1B Jaime Espinoza
1B Ronald Harmon
1B James Heard
LF Robert Johnson
SP John Matthews
CL Adrian Peterson
3B Bobby Watson
C Norihide Yamamoto
CF Miguel Yánez
Last edited by Denny on Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:04 pm, edited 14 times in total.
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Thanks Denny for putting this together, I had completely forgotten to pay attention to that. It will be interesting to see if this impacts the free agent market in PEBA like it has in MLB.
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When did we turn this feature on? Did I miss something else?

Well, duh ... obviously I did.
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And ... uh ... welcome back Robert? O:-)
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Cliff Hangers wrote:When did we turn this feature on? Did I miss something else?

Well, duh ... obviously I did.

Ummmm....years ago. When MLB changed the CBA and OOTP incorporated it into the game, we switched as well. I can't tell you the exact season we switched, but this is nothing new at all. It's exactly the same as it was in version 15, and it possibly goes back to version 14, not sure and too lazy to fire up 14 to look. I can point you to this article from

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/26026776/

which details the present CBA, it is from November 2011, so my guess is that whichever the next version of the game was (spring 2012 would be version 13 I think) would be when it first appeared. Maybe they delayed until version 14. But it's certainly nothing new and nothing changed that should be causing a major freakout from anyone. We've been on the system for years.

The old system (Type A, Type B) was eliminated, as well as some other changes. It's a big reason why the supplemental rounds of the draft the last few seasons are usually just 3-4 picks, not the 16-20 we used to have.

Denny merely summarized how it works again.
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#6 Post by roncollins »

Yes, I'm aware of the MLB rule, but I fully admit I've learned something new about the PEBA world. The feature is (I think) an option in OOTP and I haven't seen any mention of it in our constitution, so I assumed it was turned off. Guess I've never had to worry about it before.

I assumed the supplemental picks were guys who hadn't signed draft picks the year before.

Shrug. It's all good. I'm just here to fiddle with my team. Carry on.
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Cliff Hangers wrote:I assumed the supplemental picks were guys who hadn't signed draft picks the year before.
The Supplemental round is for picks received for players lost in free agency. If your draft pick doesn't sign, you get the comparable pick the following year...
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Ocelots wrote:Maybe they delayed until version 14. But it's certainly nothing new and nothing changed that should be causing a major freakout from anyone. We've been on the system for years.

The old system (Type A, Type B) was eliminated, as well as some other changes. It's a big reason why the supplemental rounds of the draft the last few seasons are usually just 3-4 picks, not the 16-20 we used to have.

Denny merely summarized how it works again.
Yes, I think it might just be that this year was the first time that I was seriously thinking about signing a guy who was compensation-eligible, so I had to go and refresh my memory about how it works, and thought others might find it useful as well.
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Good reminder Denny.... :clap:
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We've had carping on the boards for at least two, and I think three offseasons, over folks who have offered arbitration to middle relievers who accepted the best one year deal of their careers at approximately $15M. So the 2012 CB
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This initial post was a very nice PSA. Thank you for putting in the work.
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Codgers wrote: Okay, so who are the compensation-eligible free agents for 2023? From what I can determine there are a dozen of them. In alphabetical order, they are:
LF Arthur Collins
CL Raúl Cruz
3B Matsusuke Hamada
LF Ieyoshi Ishikawa
SP Clayton Lewis
RF Miguel Martínes
2B Raúl Medina
RP Davis Sutherland
CL Larry Taylor
C Scott Vinson
DH Decheng Wen
SP Jun'ichi Yoshino

If you are thinking of signing any of these fellows, be aware it may cost you a draft pick in addition to their salary!
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Thanks for the reminder Denny! I keep forgetting if the free agent's former team gets the signing team's pick or not (they don't). ;-D
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Borealis wrote:
Cliff Hangers wrote:I assumed the supplemental picks were guys who hadn't signed draft picks the year before.
The Supplemental round is for picks received for players lost in free agency. If your draft pick doesn't sign, you get the comparable pick the following year...
If I remember correctly, this CBA also protects the top 10 picks in the draft. Thus, if a team picking in the top 10 signs one of the compensation eligible FAs they don't forfeit their 1st round draft pick, but I do believe they would forfeit their second round choice and the losing team receives a supplemental pick as opposed to the 1st. I could be mistaken about that, but that's what my pea sized brain is telling me at this minute.

FWIW, you can also go to the filter view, under the financial tab, and click the compensation check box to turn on a view that shows you who the compensation eligible FAs are when viewing them in game -- very handy.
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Sandgnats wrote:
Borealis wrote:
Cliff Hangers wrote:I assumed the supplemental picks were guys who hadn't signed draft picks the year before.
The Supplemental round is for picks received for players lost in free agency. If your draft pick doesn't sign, you get the comparable pick the following year...
If I remember correctly, this CBA also protects the top 10 picks in the draft. Thus, if a team picking in the top 10 signs one of the compensation eligible FAs they don't forfeit their 1st round draft pick, but I do believe they would forfeit their second round choice and the losing team receives a supplemental pick as opposed to the 1st. I could be mistaken about that, but that's what my pea sized brain is telling me at this minute.
Correct. Aurora has picked up a few nice pieces in the supplemental round - but I believe the catch is, you have to offer the player the $15M arby offer first, then if it's declined and they sign elsewhere, do you get the pick...

We got Lando last year (hard to believe Frank didn't nab him first), and Pedro via supplemental, amongst others - so it's definitely a valuable pick - but the risk is, offering up the $15M for a guy you might not want. No compensation on Jose Rivera, we couldn't afford the $15M like we could last season...

All the rule changes over the years make it challenging.
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I just updated the initial post with the compensation-eligible FAs for 2024. I noticed there are only 11 of them currently rather than 12 as there were last year, which makes me wonder if someone has already forfeited their pick for the upcoming season...
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