Sorry for the lateness of this, just catching up - Here is the transcript of our Winter Meetings, as captured by Dylan. It was an exciting morning/afternoon! The Channel is still there (as of today) and as such, all the images and graphics available for you to review - this is simply for posterities sake, and forum historical record.
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Yuma [12:55 PM]
Of all the gin joints in all the world ... is this the one?
Drew-Warriors [12:56 PM]
I am shocked! Shocked!
Yuma [12:56 PM]
Yeah, kinda empty, ain't it?
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [12:57 PM]
I'm out back with a bloody
Yuma [12:57 PM]
Where'd you get that? No one tending bar in here.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [12:57 PM]
o dang, you didn't hear?
it's serve urself
leave the money on back bar
Drew-Warriors [12:58 PM]
Casablanca.jpg
Yuma [12:59 PM]
You got it, Drew!
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:00 PM]
and don't fprget to fill the tip bucket
Yuma [1:01 PM]
Now, nursey, wheel me over to that self-serve bar and mix me up a Cuba Libre. Gonna be a long meeting.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:01 PM]
I will check that later
I mean they will
Yuma [1:01 PM]
Oh, right, Nursey, drop your keys into the tip jar. Duane’ll check you out later.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:02 PM]
usual suspects is one of my fav movies of all time
Drew-Warriors [1:02 PM]
Another great film
"Give *me* the keys"
Yuma [1:02 PM]
Tarantino’s too.
Drew, you can pick them up later. He’s busy, aren’t you, Nursey?
Mike - Coqui [1:04 PM]
I'm working today so may be slow to check in. Feeling set with SJ. A year away from making any contending moves so not taking on $ nor moving what little I have due to a fickle fan base. Will put Pedro Alfaro (AAA) on the block. 53-33, 3.13 over minors career. Control issues but other than his PEBA debut not bad with long ball...ask is just looking to make a deal (edited)
Yuma [1:04 PM]
Well, here we are, in the Winter Meetings again, but no snow outside, no chatter inside, and few of the usual suspects.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:06 PM]
ready for another......
extra hot green beans this time
Frank - Badgers [1:06 PM]
I'm here
Yuma [1:06 PM]
You got strange innards, lad.
Hi, Frank!
Greg - Alleghenies [1:07 PM]
I'm here. Trading all my players for real cash!!!
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:07 PM]
Frank ... you old badger you
Vic (Claymores) [1:07 PM]
Hi Frank!
Yuma [1:07 PM]
@Greg - Alleghenies Trading any draft picks for cash?
Evan - Underground [1:07 PM]
Also here :flag-gb:
Reg - Trendsetters [1:08 PM]
checking in from :flag-ca:
Yuma [1:08 PM]
Evan! You brought your flag.
Drew-Warriors [1:08 PM]
@Mike - Borealis I just realized you were in Hawaii again. That explains the daylight-hours messages I was getting! haha
Greg - Alleghenies [1:08 PM]
Bob if it's real American money I'll sell anything
Dylan - Wind Dancers [1:08 PM]
I'm here as well, getting things ready behind the curtain
Mike - Borealis [1:08 PM]
Alrighty folks!
Evan - Underground [1:08 PM]
Yes, we brought a flag. And I assure you it's larger than the Scottish flag, if they even thought to bring one
Yuma [1:08 PM]
We make it from real American water and dirt and trees. @Greg - Alleghenies
David - Charleston [1:09 PM]
Sort of here
Greg - Alleghenies [1:09 PM]
Cool just venmo me haha
Mike - Borealis [1:09 PM]
Welcome to the Asheville Hotel Ballroom and (sometimes) Gin Bar!!
Yuma [1:09 PM]
We’ll sort you out, David.
Mike - Borealis [1:09 PM]
For the 2028 PEBA Winter Meetings!!
Yuma [1:09 PM]
Huzzah!
Evan - Underground [1:10 PM]
Tally ho, gents
Scott - Zephyrs [1:10 PM]
Hello all
Yuma [1:10 PM]
Keep your horse out of this, Evan!
Vic (Claymores) [1:10 PM]
Hey all!
Yuma [1:10 PM]
Howdy, Scott! How’s the weather in Reno?
Greg - Alleghenies [1:10 PM]
I think someone roofied my gin. Thanks to whoever did that.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:10 PM]
BOB
Frank - Badgers [1:10 PM]
:flag-nl::flag-au:
Yuma [1:10 PM]
Vic, you’ve already been insulted by those Londoners.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:10 PM]
he gets confused
Mike - Borealis [1:11 PM]
The first thing I want to start off with is a reminder where we were 6 months ago, at the 2027 meetings, when things were Super Uber Doom & Gloom…
Reg - Trendsetters [1:11 PM]
a good time to go negotiating with Greg .. LOL
Yuma [1:11 PM]
Don’t blame me. My nurse is behind the bar. Trying to fix me a Cuba Libre, but since it’s a gin bar that may prove tricky. Still, he’s mighty resourceful, aren’t you, Nursey?
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:11 PM]
thank you Mike for taking the post
Mike - Borealis [1:11 PM]
And today, we have a full League - added two teams, and the PEBA feels vibrant again…
Yuma [1:11 PM]
Yes, Mike, thanks for all you’ve done and done so well.
Frank - Badgers [1:12 PM]
@Yuma Can he fix me a drink, too?
Vic (Claymores) [1:12 PM]
Hear, hear!
Yuma [1:12 PM]
Three cheers for Borealis and the Commish!
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:12 PM]
soon as I get my cubes
Mike - Borealis [1:12 PM]
I could pat myself on the back, and the Board, but who I think deserves the biggest thanks is you Guys!
Yuma [1:12 PM]
@Frank - Badgers Sure, Frank. He speaks 3 languages, so just tell him what you want in French, Spanish or Italian.
Greg - Alleghenies [1:12 PM]
I got Bob's nursey on speed dial
Yuma [1:13 PM]
Good luck with that. He hates phones.
Greg - Alleghenies [1:13 PM]
My translator can translate any language but Greek.
Yuma [1:13 PM]
But it’s all Greek to you, right?
Mike - Borealis [1:13 PM]
Especially the ones who have been around for the long haul - Duane, Denny, Kevin, Greg, Bob - So many of us have been involved in the PEBA since the 2007-2009 - and we are all still here!!
Greg - Alleghenies [1:13 PM]
It sure is Bob
Yuma [1:14 PM]
We’re all here, Mike, but some of us aren’t ALL here, if you know what I mean.
Mike - Borealis [1:14 PM]
So I thank You guys for keeping the faith, hanging in there through our blips, and making this the Community worth fighting for!!
So today, we have a bunch of interesting things to review, to discuss, to share. We will be simming 4 days while we are here, and Reg will keep us abreast of any signings, etc that happen. We had one Huge signing last sim, so more may be on the way…
Oh… and I would be remiss if I didn’t Congratulate Cristian and Fargo for his excellent season!!!
Yuma [1:17 PM]
I was wondering who Mr Huge would sign with.
Mike - Borealis [1:17 PM]
Greg - Alleghenies [1:17 PM]
I bet it was Kevin!!!
Mike - Borealis [1:17 PM]
HA!
Reg - Trendsetters [1:17 PM]
"Mr. Huge" would make a great nickname
Evan - Underground [1:18 PM]
That's Mr. Huge 7 to you all
Mike - Borealis [1:18 PM]
I think Kevin only signs guys with Huge Bats…
Dylan - Wind Dancers [1:18 PM]
It's always Kevin
Yuma [1:18 PM]
Mr Huge's salary will be huge no matter how huge, or not, his salary really is, right?
Mike - Borealis [1:18 PM]
If you get my meaning…
Yuma [1:18 PM]
Bats in their belfryl
Frank - Badgers [1:18 PM]
I assume Mike's referring to Molina's extension
Yuma [1:18 PM]
That's belfry
!
Greg - Alleghenies [1:19 PM]
Don Mercer is coming home lol
Mike - Borealis [1:19 PM]
As a reminder, any trades need to be PM’d to me and CC’d to the trading partner, with the second partner quoting the trade back to me.
Yuma [1:19 PM]
In redundancy lies our future.
Mike - Borealis [1:19 PM]
Once I announce it here, you are free to post it in the Forums…
Frank - Badgers [1:19 PM]
@Greg - Alleghenies Mercer's from Florida...
Greg - Alleghenies [1:20 PM]
He played in WV for many many years
He owns half the state
Yuma [1:20 PM]
That would be the coal-depleted half, right?
Frank - Badgers [1:20 PM]
He'll own half of any state soon enough
Greg - Alleghenies [1:20 PM]
When he retires I'm naming my stadium after him
Yuma [1:20 PM]
He can have all of Nevada if he'll just NOT play for the Dozers.
Wait till he's dead. Cheaper.
Greg - Alleghenies [1:21 PM]
I'm rich!!!
Frank - Badgers [1:21 PM]
I'm of the opinion that Nevada is completely unnecessary
Yuma [1:21 PM]
Whatcha gonna do with all your play money, boy-o?
David - Charleston [1:21 PM]
Will any free agents sign during this time?
Scott - Zephyrs [1:21 PM]
What kind of drugs is Leon Brunelle doing. He is asking for 142 million
Greg - Alleghenies [1:22 PM]
Some will sign.
Yuma [1:22 PM]
@Frank - Badgers Your opinion is sound.
Evan - Underground [1:22 PM]
Very expensive ones, apparently
David - Charleston [1:22 PM]
Fingers crossed then
Greg - Alleghenies [1:22 PM]
I've signed 4 so far this off season
Yuma [1:22 PM]
Leon doesn't understand decimal points. He thinks he's asking for 14.2 mil.
David - Charleston [1:22 PM]
That they dont
Mike - Borealis [1:22 PM]
So, the first bit on our agenda, Reg is going to review the Expansion Process that has already begun!
Greg - Alleghenies [1:23 PM]
I only need 2 more to sign and I'm going to be done.
Frank - Badgers [1:23 PM]
Must be nice... I only have 9 major leaguers right now.
Yuma [1:23 PM]
@Greg - Alleghenies Done signing FAs, I hope, but not done swapping for talented players from Yuma.
Drew-Warriors [1:23 PM]
"Major Leaguer" is a relative term here in Duluth...
Evan - Underground [1:23 PM]
I've had 1 major league guy sign, but a ton of farm gentlemen.
Yuma [1:24 PM]
@Frank - Badgers Want some more? I got a whole team of 'em.
Frank - Badgers [1:24 PM]
@Drew-Warriors I can relate to that
@Yuma Not really...
Apparently I have to have 25, though.
Yuma [1:24 PM]
For a couple draft picks I can give you anyone you want — as many anyones as you need!
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [1:25 PM]
Of all the days my wife insists on our going to brunch....IT’S THE MOST IMPORTANT DAY ON THE PEBA CALENDAR!
Yuma [1:25 PM]
Tell her brunch begins at 1.
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [1:25 PM]
It’s a good thing you guys made me get this Slack thing on my phone after all!
Yuma [1:25 PM]
Oh, she's gonna love that. Brunching while you prove yourself a Slacker!
Reg - Trendsetters [1:26 PM]
@everyone well, as most of you guys have noticed, we have two new (returning) teams, with two new faces leading them. So, i'd like to start by welcoming both Steven and David to the PEBA universe, who will lead Manchester and Charleston respectively!
Evan - Underground [1:26 PM]
I've heard the Asheville Hotel has excellent brunch offerings
Yuma [1:26 PM]
Huzzah!
Reg - Trendsetters [1:26 PM]
I guess the @ didn't quite work, but anyway lol
Frank - Badgers [1:26 PM]
Hurray!
Yuma [1:26 PM]
Asheville? Denny's in Palm Springs.
Greg - Alleghenies [1:27 PM]
Bob the meetings are in Asheville
Mike - Borealis [1:27 PM]
RJ said he’d pay for the board room in Vegas…
Yuma [1:27 PM]
All the rooms in Vegas are bored.
And boring.
Mike - Borealis [1:27 PM]
Just thinking 25th anniversary PEBA meetings…
Yuma [1:27 PM]
"I spent a week in Las Vegas last night."
We should meet for the 25th in a genuine PEBA city. Like, oh, say, Yuma!
Greg - Alleghenies [1:28 PM]
We met in Chicago many yearsago
Mike - Borealis [1:28 PM]
HA!!
Greg - Alleghenies [1:28 PM]
I have a picture of us at the game
Drew-Warriors [1:28 PM]
Lake Superior is lovely this time of year, just saying
Yuma [1:28 PM]
I think Mike's choking. Someone get him an olive.
Lake Superior is fu-fu-fu-fureezing this time of year!
Greg - Alleghenies [1:30 PM]
It was a fun time in the bleachers. I'd be in for doing it again
Frank - Badgers [1:30 PM]
I remember those pictures. Was bummed I couldn't make it
Evan - Underground [1:30 PM]
Lake Superior is named ironically, FYI
Yuma [1:30 PM]
I missed that one in Chicago. But this time let's do it somewhere closer to the Commish's home. Say ... San Francisco?
Frank - Badgers [1:30 PM]
We need a Pacific Northwest meetup
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:30 PM]
I was unemployed at the time ... could not swing it
Ken - Featherheads [1:30 PM]
I'd be down frank
Yuma [1:31 PM]
Portland has baseball and the best bookstore on the West Coast.
Frank - Badgers [1:31 PM]
We do!
Yuma [1:31 PM]
Then it's settled. Frank will put us all up at his place in Portland.
Reg - Trendsetters [1:31 PM]
so, to summarize how this expansion works,
A) There is no expansion draft. The two teams have inherited their WIL and Reserve rosters, and will use free agency and Rule 5 to build up their initial rosters.
B) In both Rule 5 and Amateur Draft, Charleston will pick #9, and Manchester will pick #10 in all rounds.
C) Additionally, in the Amateur Draft, in rounds 10-15 only, both teams get additional picks at the end of each round. Manchester is next-to-last (#29) and Charleston picks last in each round (#30)
... and finally D) There will be a quick set of extra rounds, numbered 16-25, for those two teams ONLY, to help them fill out their lower minors. Charleston will pick first in Round 16, and follow a "snake" format. (edited)
Yuma [1:32 PM]
Can they trade those extra round picks? I'd love to pick up some picks in rounds 24 or 25!
Greg - Alleghenies [1:32 PM]
I don't think they can
Yuma [1:33 PM]
Frank - Badgers [1:33 PM]
There should be a rule that you can only have one player from each draft round on your roster at any one time
Evan - Underground [1:33 PM]
We welcome our new colleagues, and definitely aren't muttering under our breath about falling from 10th to 12th in the draft as a result
Yuma [1:33 PM]
And how would you ever know that, Frank?
Mike - Borealis [1:33 PM]
The in-game draft order (should be) is accurate, and reflects these additional picks…
Frank - Badgers [1:33 PM]
I'm sure it'll be easy, Bob. Don't worry about it.
Yuma [1:34 PM]
But there is no in-game draft order. I just checked. The option is blank.
Mike - Borealis [1:34 PM]
No, the only picks CST and MAN can trade will be their regular round picks - the extra picks are to help these two fill out thier short A rosters…
I’m seeing one…
Yuma [1:34 PM]
I could fill BOTH their short A rosters in 5 minutes with the talent sitting on my DFA list.
Frank - Badgers [1:35 PM]
If you look in the FA pages, there's a tab for the draft order
Yuma [1:35 PM]
Wait. My apologies. I found a new link to the draft order. And, yes, it's there. Though you can't tell which pick is your original and which a pick you swapped for.
Mike - Borealis [1:35 PM]
The minor league teams for Manchester and Charleston will be their original squads - although two of those have found their way yo other teams…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [1:36 PM]
Reminder: most all of Palm Springs’ under-21 kids at Lanaii City are available! Useful especially for expansion clubs to help stock those minors systems...
Mike - Borealis [1:36 PM]
So Charleston welcomes a new city to the PEBAverse: NAFTA representitive, the Tijuana Saguaros…
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With a thank you to Patrick for the logo…
Yuma [1:37 PM]
@Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers Denny, I need a break from winter. Want to swap your entire Lanaii City organization for my Kivalina set up?
Vic (Claymores) [1:37 PM]
Nice logo!
Frank - Badgers [1:37 PM]
Oooh... a sliding saguaro!
Mike - Borealis [1:37 PM]
Tijuana.png
Yuma [1:37 PM]
That slide's gonna hurt!
Evan - Underground [1:37 PM]
Those caps are incredible
David - Charleston [1:37 PM]
now im more confused, a new team?
Mike - Borealis [1:38 PM]
And Manchester welcomes to the Surf and Snow, the Skagway Prospectors…
Yuma [1:38 PM]
Green on green? Whose color-blind idea was that?
Mike - Borealis [1:38 PM]
Skagway.png
Dylan - Wind Dancers [1:38 PM]
@David - Charleston It's one of your minor league teams
Mike - Borealis [1:38 PM]
Skagway.png
David - Charleston [1:39 PM]
@Dylan - Wind Dancers ah ok
Mike - Borealis [1:39 PM]
@Yuma
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:39 PM]
Skag-a-delic
Yuma [1:39 PM]
Curious. Both new team caps are in the shape of the letter T. Is it a secret code?
Mike - Borealis [1:39 PM]
Maybe…
Frank - Badgers [1:39 PM]
You don't have a T on all your caps, Bob?
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:39 PM]
T for take your pills
Vic (Claymores) [1:39 PM]
The Skagway Crimson 'n Beige ...
Patrick Hildreth [1:39 PM]
love that Skagway logo. nice one!
Yuma [1:40 PM]
Its more russet and tomato, don't you think?
Frank - Badgers [1:40 PM]
Russet's a potato, not a tomato
Vic (Claymores) [1:40 PM]
Khaki and Ketchup?
Reg - Trendsetters [1:40 PM]
"hey what colors are the jerseys?"
"they are 'potato' and 'tomato'!!"
Drew-Warriors [1:40 PM]
what's in a name? A potato by any other name still fries as sweetly
David - Charleston [1:41 PM]
anyone got a link to the forum page about winter meetings?
Mike - Borealis [1:41 PM]
“Patato and Tamato”… _Please_ ….
Yuma [1:42 PM]
Both are originally new world plants that saved Europe from starvation. Very noble veggies.
Mike - Borealis [1:42 PM]
This one David: http://pebabaseball.com/boards/viewtopi ... 61&t=10871
Greg - Alleghenies [1:43 PM]
I hate not having access to game. I can't make trades
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [1:43 PM]
Same here Greg!
Mike - Borealis [1:43 PM]
Next up, Dylan with a word about our Feeder Leagues…
Yuma [1:44 PM]
Those boys are well fed. Too well!
Greg - Alleghenies [1:44 PM]
Good because WV is hungry
Dylan - Wind Dancers [1:45 PM]
Hey all, with the evolution of our league into 28 teams we elected to expand our current feeder league system a bit and restructure in places that were in desperate need of an update.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:46 PM]
so Moldova and Greenland have been added?
Dylan - Wind Dancers [1:46 PM]
1. All feeder leagues now have similar playoff structures. College leagues have 8 playoff teams, HS has 4. Along with this, division have been balanced a bit more which I will go over below.
International College: We have added 4 new teams that will slot in to the current divisions:
Hitotsubashi University Socialites - Tokyo, JPN
Curtin University Cockatoos - Perth, AUS
ETH Zurich Physicists - Zurich, SVI
Instituto Politécnico Nacional Mules - Mexico City, MEX
Frank - Badgers [1:48 PM]
Australia! Woot!
Yuma [1:49 PM]
What happened with that last name? 4 words in Spanish and then someone forgot the Spanish word for "mule"?
Mike - Borealis [1:49 PM]
HAHAHAHAHA!!
Frank - Badgers [1:49 PM]
I thought it was Spanish (moo - less)
Yuma [1:50 PM]
That's "mole," which you eat.
Evan - Underground [1:50 PM]
Well, I don't eat it
Frank - Badgers [1:50 PM]
I don't eat moles
Drew-Warriors [1:50 PM]
moles eat you
Patrick Hildreth [1:50 PM]
LOL Liking the 'Physicists ! At least in theory ...
Frank - Badgers [1:51 PM]
Har de har!
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [1:51 PM]
You’d have to be a real ass not to enjoy mule sauce.
Yuma [1:51 PM]
If they can keep their heads out of the clouds.
Quit kicking your wife under the table, Denny!
Dylan - Wind Dancers [1:51 PM]
US College: Divisions have been balanced to 10 teams a piece and the wonky playoff structure fixed. We also moved 2 teams and renamed 1 of them.
Louisville High Fives have been moved to the American Heartland Conference
South Florida has been moved to the Western 10 Conference and renamed the Colorado Herd
Yuma [1:51 PM]
South Floria moved to Colorado? That musta taken a few million moving vans.
Did Colorado get any seashore in the deal?
I'm sure Florida insisted on a mountain or two.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [1:52 PM]
who paid for all these moves?
Drew-Warriors [1:52 PM]
Federal grants
Yuma [1:52 PM]
Cuban exiles.
Drew-Warriors [1:52 PM]
too big to fail
Mike - Borealis [1:53 PM]
The Colorado River got the seashore part of the deal, so if your Yuman water is tasting a bit saltier these days, that’s why…
Dylan - Wind Dancers [1:53 PM]
International High School: 2 new teams have been added to the Far East division while one Far East team has moved to the West.
Kochi HS Shogun - Kochi, JPN join the Far East
Sendai Ikuei HS Daimyo - Miyagi, JPN join the Far East
Canuck HS Battlecats - Vancouver, CAN move to the Far West
Drew-Warriors [1:53 PM]
hey colorado had an inland sea when Bob was a kid, might be what he's referring to (edited)
Patrick Hildreth [1:53 PM]
Exiles? Vile lies I tell you. We welcome everybody who can play.
Dylan - Wind Dancers [1:53 PM]
The US High School system remains the same
Yuma [1:53 PM]
Couldn't hurt. With all the mine tailings in the water, maybe salt will balance the ph.
@Drew-Warriors I ain't THAT old!
Dylan - Wind Dancers [1:54 PM]
These changes should give us a solid foundation of talent moving forward and will also benefit any minor league changes we make in the future.
Yuma [1:54 PM]
Though I do remember when the Great Salt Lake was called the Bonneville Sea.
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [1:55 PM]
So much to take in!
Yuma [1:55 PM]
If it's Colorado River Water, you wanna spit most of it back out.
Evan - Underground [1:55 PM]
I can't wait for all these new schools to begin producing alumni prospects who inevitably disappoint
Drew-Warriors [1:55 PM]
lol
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [1:55 PM]
I still haven’t adjusted to all the Japanese and European teams and systems
Mike - Borealis [1:55 PM]
Those feeder teams have been loaded with players and there is a range of ages on those teams, so they will produce draft-eligible players in 2029..
Yuma [1:56 PM]
Note: that's draft ELIGIBLE, not draft WORTHY. I got lots of eligibles in my minor league system.
Frank - Badgers [1:57 PM]
Nice work on all those feeders. Great to see the leagues getting sorted out to keep talent flowing.
Mike - Borealis [1:58 PM]
Noted Bob!
And with that, we have our first TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT!
Reg - Trendsetters [1:58 PM]
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ANNOUNCEMENT
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Yuma [1:58 PM]
HUZZAH!!!
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [1:58 PM]
!
Mike - Borealis [1:59 PM]
The Bulldozers of Yuma and The Alleghanies of West Virginia have agreed on a deal…
Yuma [1:59 PM]
Drinks all around, Nursey!
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [1:59 PM]
...
Yuma [1:59 PM]
...
Reg - Trendsetters [2:00 PM]
drumroll
Mike - Borealis [2:00 PM]
WV sends to Yuma 3B Fred Jones in exchange for International Complex prospect SS Guo-fang Tsou…
Evan - Underground [2:00 PM]
.... :flag-gb:
Marco.C - Calzoneros [2:00 PM]
Hi everyone sorry I'm a little bit late
Mike - Borealis [2:00 PM]
Hey Marco!!
Reg - Trendsetters [2:00 PM]
Hi Marco!
Yuma [2:00 PM]
Duck, Marco!
Greg - Alleghenies [2:00 PM]
Hi Marco
Yuma [2:00 PM]
A trade is in the wind
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:00 PM]
Hiya Marco
Greg - Alleghenies [2:00 PM]
Best trade ever Bob
Yuma [2:01 PM]
Really? How you figure?
Frank - Badgers [2:01 PM]
Hi Marco
Drew-Warriors [2:01 PM]
Hey Marco!
Frank - Badgers [2:01 PM]
Do INT guys that get traded go to SS-A or do they go to INT with their new team?
Greg - Alleghenies [2:01 PM]
Ss-a
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:02 PM]
Really?
Greg - Alleghenies [2:02 PM]
Yep
Yuma [2:02 PM]
I got more of them INT guys, if you got a hankerin', Dennuy.
Mike - Borealis [2:02 PM]
There is no mechanism to add IC guys to another IC, or demote to IC…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:02 PM]
That’s a disincentive to deal for those 16 year olds...
Greg - Alleghenies [2:03 PM]
It sure is
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:03 PM]
I figured there was some commissioner magic that let you do it
Good to know!
Yuma [2:03 PM]
Commish magic!
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:04 PM]
Cast a spell!
Mike - Borealis [2:04 PM]
Nope - there are some things you are just stuck with - like Rule 5 - you can’t alter that list…
Yuma [2:05 PM]
Rule 5 is ... well, it was fifth, at some time. What were rules 1-4?
Vic (Claymores) [2:05 PM]
The first rule of Rule 5 is we don't discuss Rules 1-4.
Frank - Badgers [2:05 PM]
Rule 4 is the amateur draft
Drew-Warriors [2:06 PM]
Rule #1 is Steve Hott
Yuma [2:06 PM]
:rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [2:06 PM]
IL RULES!!!
Mike - Borealis [2:07 PM]
Yeah… Right…
Yuma [2:07 PM]
Now that we've buried Mister Hott in infamy, where will we find Meister Kold?
Frank - Badgers [2:07 PM]
Rule 7 was renamed Jim 7
Evan - Underground [2:07 PM]
You mean Meister Freeze?
Drew-Warriors [2:07 PM]
Clark Snow wants 12 Mil, still an FA
Yuma [2:07 PM]
We got Mister Softy out west, but no Freezes.
@Drew-Warriors You should swap Snow to Yuma. We ain't seen none in decades.
Drew-Warriors [2:09 PM]
I ain't got that kind of scrooge mcduck cash laying around. Who do you think I am, West Virginia?
Evan - Underground [2:09 PM]
Don't even get me started on Snow
He's a traitor to Queen and country
Drew-Warriors [2:09 PM]
hahaha
Yuma [2:10 PM]
@Drew-Warriors Oh, but I do. For a couple draft picks, I could relieve you of Snow's salary and throw in a few minor leaguers for good measure.
Mike - Borealis [2:10 PM]
Snow… Wanted huge bucks, then signs for a dime…
Vic (Claymores) [2:10 PM]
Somewhere, he and Mercer are thumbing their noses at fish and chips ...
Yuma [2:10 PM]
@Evan - Underground U.S. rumor mags say it'll soon be King and Country again.
Evan - Underground [2:11 PM]
The Yankees ought stay in their lane
Mike - Borealis [2:12 PM]
“Stay in your lane, Brah…”
Reg - Trendsetters [2:12 PM]
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ANNOUNCEMENT
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It is now Sunday, December 17th
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News :
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [2:13 PM]
any singnings?
Yuma [2:13 PM]
No wonder I'm feeling sleepy.
Evan - Underground [2:13 PM]
Someone must have put something in my drink..that day went by fast
Reg - Trendsetters [2:13 PM]
Toyama signed SS Gabriel McIntyre to a 3-year/$16.5 million deal
West Virginia signed C Scott Francis to a 3-year/$8 million deal
London signed RP Yasutoki Ine to a 1-year/$1.97 million deal
Charleston signed SP Kokei Yamashita to a 1-year/$7 million deal
Yuma [2:13 PM]
No signings, but we could do a singing.
David - Charleston [2:13 PM]
noooooooooo
Evan - Underground [2:13 PM]
I'm looking at the Scotsman suspiciously
Mike - Borealis [2:13 PM]
Adios Gabe…
Vic (Claymores) [2:13 PM]
Moi?
Yuma [2:14 PM]
Leave your French at Hadrian's Wall!
Frank - Badgers [2:14 PM]
I wanted Francis, but had other priorities I probably won't get either
David - Charleston [2:14 PM]
Yamashita availabe to trade
Mike - Borealis [2:14 PM]
I wanted a bunch of guys, but my pocketbook said otherwise….
Yuma [2:15 PM]
I'd have made an offer IF his real name was Francis Scott Francis.
That was the key to my deal-making.
Greg - Alleghenies [2:16 PM]
Nice I got francis
Drew-Warriors [2:16 PM]
Ine's an interesting character
Greg - Alleghenies [2:16 PM]
Anyone need a great defensive catcher in cheap contract? I have Rivera
Yuma [2:17 PM]
Anyone need a great offensive catcher whose salary Yuma will pay for next year?
Mike - Borealis [2:17 PM]
Next on our Winter Meeting Agenda, we have a number of teams with some Minor League rebranding - and the first to tell us about this will be Vic or the Scottish Claymores!
Vic (Claymores) [2:17 PM]
As some of you are aware, the Scottish ownership has been locked in a dispute with our Short A affiliate, Fukumitsu, over the unfortunate nature of its big red FU logo. The logo has been a fixture of late night comedy routines and blog posts that put our franchise in an embarrassing light.
Yuma [2:17 PM]
Humma humma humma!
Frank - Badgers [2:18 PM]
Lean into it, Vic!
Yuma [2:18 PM]
Look at the fans lining up to get into the stadium to protest!
David - Charleston [2:18 PM]
hang on i cant Yamashita, double whammy
Vic (Claymores) [2:18 PM]
We have asked that the logo be changed, but have been rebuffed at every turn.
Patrick Hildreth [2:18 PM]
just turn the F-off
Yuma [2:19 PM]
Political correctness is the death of imagination.
Vic (Claymores) [2:19 PM]
So, we have broken off talks with the Fukumitsu franchise and are here to announce the move of our Short A team to ...
Yuma [2:19 PM]
...
Vic (Claymores) [2:19 PM]
The island paradise of Maui ...
Yuma [2:19 PM]
Oh, man, another Hawaiian team? Wanna swap Maui for Kivilina, Vic?
Vic (Claymores) [2:20 PM]
Specifically, we will be locating in the city of Lahaina, and our lovely new stadium will be called the Kokua Gardens.
Evan - Underground [2:20 PM]
Fukumitsu got ROBBED
Patrick Hildreth [2:20 PM]
no love for Kahoʻolawe
Drew-Warriors [2:20 PM]
An elegant upgrade!
Greg - Alleghenies [2:20 PM]
David it's only 1 year and not too expensive
Vic (Claymores) [2:20 PM]
Kokua is Hawaiian for a spirit of understanding and cooperation.
David - Charleston [2:21 PM]
@Greg - Alleghenies but i have very specialised tastes in players, that doesnt help
Vic (Claymores) [2:21 PM]
So it's understood that visiting teams will cooperate by resting their starters.
Frank - Badgers [2:21 PM]
Lahaina is lovely
Drew-Warriors [2:21 PM]
Vic (Claymores) [2:21 PM]
Our team will be the Maui Mahi-Mahi, incidentally ...
Greg - Alleghenies [2:21 PM]
We all do.
Mike - Borealis [2:21 PM]
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Drew-Warriors [2:21 PM]
love it
Mike - Borealis [2:21 PM]
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Vic (Claymores) [2:22 PM]
The fighting Mahi, as it were ...
Evan - Underground [2:22 PM]
There a lot of colors going on there lol
Patrick Hildreth [2:22 PM]
Possible sponsor include Fukushima United, Federal Underwriters, Fred and Underway ...
Yuma [2:22 PM]
The Maui Maui Mahi Mahi. Mmmm, that's a ma-ma-ma- mouthful.
Mike - Borealis [2:22 PM]
HAHAHAHA!!
Vic (Claymores) [2:22 PM]
I've actually been to Lahaina - it is really beautiful. And, yes, I've eaten Mahi-Mahi there ...
Yuma [2:23 PM]
Dig the new chin guards built right into the baseball cap!
Drew-Warriors [2:23 PM]
Are the sideburns standard issue?
Patrick Hildreth [2:23 PM]
In Russia mahi mahi eat you! (pointless I know but had so say it)
Vic (Claymores) [2:23 PM]
The team screen background is electric green - it keeps me up nights ...
Mike - Borealis [2:23 PM]
Mahi mahi beg Steve Hott to eat them…
Patrick Hildreth [2:23 PM]
those are organic solar protection - unburns
Yuma [2:23 PM]
:rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
Frank - Badgers [2:24 PM]
Mahi Mahi is the fish so nice they named it twice
Yuma [2:24 PM]
You have to swallow it twice, too too!
Mike - Borealis [2:24 PM]
The Scottish are not the only team rebranding… Next we have Drew of Duluth!
Drew-Warriors [2:25 PM]
*opens green binder*
Evan - Underground [2:25 PM]
Drewluth
Mike - Borealis [2:25 PM]
Nice….
Vic (Claymores) [2:25 PM]
Not as green as the Mahi-Mahi binder ...
Yuma [2:25 PM]
Very ominous. I don't have a green binder.
I don't have an orange binder either.
Drew-Warriors [2:26 PM]
So, Missuaga's longtime resistance to PEBA farms (on account of the non-vegan chili dogs sold at the ballpark) has finally prompted action
Mike - Borealis [2:26 PM]
Currently our binder is Red - as in the red, red…
Yuma [2:26 PM]
Heh, Nursey, do we got any binders at all?
Patrick Hildreth [2:26 PM]
gentlemen we must not permit a binder gap!
Drew-Warriors [2:26 PM]
Some will remember San Juan's Medicine Hat team, whose lovely riverside field has long gone unattended
Yuma [2:27 PM]
What is the man prattling on about?
Evan - Underground [2:27 PM]
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:27 PM]
Don’t tell me the Mississauga Cherries are moving !!
Yuma [2:27 PM]
Ah, perfectly clear now.
Drew-Warriors [2:27 PM]
In the spirit of legacy, financial liberation, and chili dogs, the Missuaga Cherries will be moving to Medicine Hat, and rebranding as the Drillers
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:28 PM]
NOOOOOOOOOO I LOVED THE CHERRIES
Drew-Warriors [2:28 PM]
This was mainly done due to the front office's inability to spell Mississauga, which is an underdeveloped meme
Jimmy, Shisa [2:28 PM]
I’m late but I’m here! Coming out of our shell in our second season
Yuma [2:28 PM]
So they'll became the Hardhat Drillers?
Reg - Trendsetters [2:28 PM]
hi Jim!!
Yuma [2:28 PM]
Hi, Jimmy, did you bring your batting helmet?
Mike - Borealis [2:28 PM]
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Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:28 PM]
PFFT
Mike - Borealis [2:28 PM]
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Vic (Claymores) [2:29 PM]
That logo is dope.
Yuma [2:29 PM]
Cute. A candle with an oil rig painted on it.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [2:29 PM]
looks like Aurora
RJ - Sandgnats [2:29 PM]
Checking in all! Just wanted to say I am glad to see all the excitement and creativity!
Evan - Underground [2:29 PM]
Oh cool, the Houston Oilers are in the PEBA!
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:29 PM]
I raise a protest. Is that a thing?
Drew-Warriors [2:29 PM]
third party corporate donations played (almost) no part in the branding
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [2:29 PM]
that's it Houston oilers
Scott - Zephyrs [2:29 PM]
Which team had the NJ Crooners? I liked their logo and unis
Patrick Hildreth [2:29 PM]
holy ghost of Earl Campbell!
Drew-Warriors [2:29 PM]
on an unrelated note this message is brought to you by Greater Alberta Natural Gas
Evan - Underground [2:29 PM]
Be honest Duluth, this was all funded by big oil execs, wasn't it?
Mike - Borealis [2:29 PM]
You may recall that Medicine Hat was a minor league franchise of Rio Grande Valley Ocelots, when they moved from the disbanded LRS. RGV didn’t last long, then they moved to San Juan…
Yuma [2:30 PM]
I raise another protest. the PEBAverse shall never be infiltrated by that inferior sport of football!
Frank - Badgers [2:30 PM]
Natural gas
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:30 PM]
My wife asks “Why is the Eiffel Tower on fire?”
Yuma [2:30 PM]
After an hour and a half in this room, I got some of that.
Greg - Alleghenies [2:30 PM]
I loved Earl Campbell
Yuma [2:30 PM]
Natural gas.
Mike - Borealis [2:30 PM]
More on this move is to come…
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [2:30 PM]
BOB .... LOLOL
Yuma [2:31 PM]
Thou shalt not speak the name of foot----.
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:31 PM]
I guess Big Natural Gas is more powerful than Big Cherry
Evan - Underground [2:31 PM]
Hand egg as we call it over in England
Yuma [2:31 PM]
Eat cherries, you get gas.
Frank - Badgers [2:31 PM]
It's Bing Cherry, Denny
Mike - Coqui [2:31 PM]
FU would be great for t shirt sales i would think.
Yuma [2:32 PM]
Hundreds of 'em walking all over college campuses these days. Already trademarked, I'm afraid.
Mike - Borealis [2:32 PM]
FWIW Denny… I loved the Cherries, too - even though I couldn’t spell Mississigua… still can’t…
Patrick Hildreth [2:32 PM]
if they dropped the 'F' they could address each other as 'Hey U'
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:32 PM]
I’m tempted to move the Mall Ratz there next year...
Mike - Borealis [2:32 PM]
Lastly… I think, of the rebranding teams is Toyama, who will then also discuss our upcoming minor league plans…
Frank - Badgers [2:32 PM]
Wottsamatta U
Vic (Claymores) [2:33 PM]
We'll miss dear old FU ...
Yuma [2:33 PM]
That's where I taught.
Until this year.
I finally figured out Wottsamatta, so they retired me.
Mike - Borealis [2:33 PM]
Oh… I forgot Shin Seiki…
So easy to do….
Yuma [2:34 PM]
The S.S. need some rebranding of their own.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [2:34 PM]
all this moving makes me thirsty ... anyone need a beverage?
Mike - Borealis [2:34 PM]
They will be rebranding their Surf and Snow team in the Hawaiian League, Atsumi… The Acorns will become the Autotbots…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:34 PM]
Shin who?
Evan - Underground [2:34 PM]
The Autobots?!
Yuma [2:34 PM]
Auto butts?
Frank - Badgers [2:34 PM]
Shin soo Choo
Mike - Borealis [2:34 PM]
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Yikes that’s a big logo…
Vic (Claymores) [2:35 PM]
That logo is terrifying ...
Mike - Borealis [2:35 PM]
Like Shin Seiki’s Huge Bats…
Evan - Underground [2:35 PM]
Autobots, roll out (new logo)
Frank - Badgers [2:35 PM]
They better say that every time they leave town on their bus
Drew-Warriors [2:36 PM]
"We are programmed to annihilate Great Lakes teams. We are Legion"
Mike - Borealis [2:36 PM]
The Evil Evas also have some other minor league tweaks, color, jersey and ballpark-wise…
Yuma [2:36 PM]
Ugly too. Like bad Aztec art mixed with WW2 bomb imagery.
Frank - Badgers [2:36 PM]
The ML team is being rebranded as the Decepticons
Yuma [2:36 PM]
That's not even a word!
Evan - Underground [2:36 PM]
Probably should keep the WW2 imagery away from a team abbreviated SS, eh?
Dan - Bears [2:37 PM]
Hey anyone looking to trade, just checking in
Yuma [2:37 PM]
Keep everything away from the SS.
Dan - Bears [2:37 PM]
When is the next sim?
Evan - Underground [2:37 PM]
We, in London, have not forgotten
Patrick Hildreth [2:37 PM]
"are we the baddies?"
Mike - Borealis [2:37 PM]
Nice Call Bob!!!
Yuma [2:38 PM]
(He bows humbly.)
Evan - Underground [2:39 PM]
Is it time for tea, yet?
Dylan - Wind Dancers [2:39 PM]
Yearly discussions with the city of Beppu on the expansion of the Panda's stadium has fallen on deaf ears for the last time. 4 playoff appearances in 6 years while being in the bottom 5 off attendance simply due to lack of seats. As the contract with the city expired, the AA Toyama affiliates decided a fresh new look in a new location with a bigger stadium is exactly what they needed. And so, the AA Beppu City Pandas moved far north where there is a lack of professional teams. Into the Toyohira Ward of Sapporo on the island of Hokkaido, they will re-brand to the "Toyohira Fubuki", or Blizzard, and will play their home games at the newly built Snow Dome in Sapporo.
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:39 PM]
Interesting
Frank - Badgers [2:39 PM]
I think they should play in Orgrimmar
Drew-Warriors [2:40 PM]
I like it!
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:40 PM]
Remember when one of the Japanese teams almost became the Sapporo Brewers ?
Mike - Borealis [2:40 PM]
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Patrick Hildreth [2:40 PM]
nice
Mike - Borealis [2:40 PM]
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Drew-Warriors [2:40 PM]
wow!
Frank - Badgers [2:40 PM]
Cool!
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:40 PM]
Excellent
Vic (Claymores) [2:40 PM]
Another T on a hat ...
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:41 PM]
I hope the stadium sells Otokoyama, the sake from Hokkaido
https://www.otokoyama.com/about/en/
otokoyama.com
What is Otokoyama | OTOKOAYAMA's Sake Brewery | The Nature in Hokkaido makes SAKE of OTOKOYAMA
Local sake
Drew-Warriors [2:42 PM]
This is probably one of the main reasons I'm at the MP station with my First Sergeant every other weekend...
Dylan - Wind Dancers [2:43 PM]
With the new teams announced, it's time to move on to a few small minor league structural changes. The goal of our leagues has always been for locations, leagues, and everything else to be balanced, and make sense. And so the AA and S-A league will have a few small changes. (edited)
AA:
The "Atlantic Alliance" league is being split into 3 divisions (from 2).
North Division (Split from old East Division)
Delaware Diamonds
Maine Lobsters
Omaha Insurers (MAN affiliate)
Youngstown Thunder
South Division (Split from old East Division)
Beauport Loggerdoggers
Bowling Green Rebels
Hampton Airborne
Monterey Sea Lions
Rockville Reckoning (CST affiliate, located in Rockville MD)
Europe and Islands Division
Den Bosch Dykes
Inverness Highlanders
Liverpool Beatles
Port-Au-Prince Bokors
Santurce Castillos
Vic (Claymores) [2:45 PM]
The Inverness Highlanders look forward to striking fear into the hearts of ... well, no one ...
Evan - Underground [2:45 PM]
fun fact, Liverpool is both in Europe, and on an Island
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:45 PM]
I remember when Rockville used to be one of WV’s farm clubs
Evan - Underground [2:45 PM]
Therefore we are already champions of being on brand
Dylan - Wind Dancers [2:45 PM]
In the "Pacific Alliance" league, the "Asian Division" has been renamed to the "Cherry Blossom" division to make the flower/plant theme of the other divisions.
In SS-A:
The Alaskan League has been split into 3 divisions (from 2):
Fisher Division
Angoon Avalanche
Ketchikan Salmon
Sitka Capitals (CST affiliate)
Skagway (MAN affiliate, nickname/logo TBA)
Taku Winds
Oiler Division
Anchorage Mighty Moose
Homer Wallbangers
Kenai Traders
Wasilla Sledge Dogs
Klondike Division (new division, with teams from both Oiler/Fisher)
Akutan Island Eagles
Barrow Arctic Blast
Cold Bay Eleven
Fairbanks Grunts
Kivalina Bowheads
These changes fueled some of the relocations around the league (Cherries for example) to better localize certain divisions and leagues.
Mike - Borealis [2:52 PM]
At AA, Manchester’s former AA team was in Hartford, which of course is now a PEBA level team, so the Insurers have moved to Hartford’s former home of Omaha and will remain the Insurers…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:53 PM]
Sponsored by Mutual of Omaha no doubt
Patrick Hildreth [2:54 PM]
Will Jim be wrestling alligators while Marlin watches?
Mike - Borealis [2:54 PM]
Indeed they are!
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Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:55 PM]
Whoa that logo is pretty great
Drew-Warriors [2:55 PM]
Agreed
Yuma [2:56 PM]
The Omaha tribe may be filing a court injunction tomorrow.
Patrick Hildreth [2:56 PM]
no worries they've probably got coverage for that
Mike - Borealis [2:56 PM]
The team formerly known as the Cherries were moved to Medicine Hat as part of a re-structuring in the old Canadian League. This move, as was the move of FUK to Maui were Board driven requests…
Evan - Underground [2:57 PM]
....FUK?
:man-facepalming:
Mike - Borealis [2:57 PM]
We have our Second Trade Announcement of the Winter Meetings!!!
Yuma [2:57 PM]
Huzzah!
Mike - Borealis [2:57 PM]
And someone better break up the Yuma front office…
Dylan - Wind Dancers [2:57 PM]
We will all very much miss the FUK abbreviation.
Yuma [2:57 PM]
Oh, we’re broken up already.
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [2:57 PM]
FUK man...
Patrick Hildreth [2:58 PM]
spoken like a Greek god Denny
Mike - Borealis [2:59 PM]
The Yuma Bulldozers will be sending RP Joaquin Montoya to Duluth in exchange for Yuma’s 5th round pick, that came to Duluth through Shin Seiki…
Yuma [2:59 PM]
Yuman begins strike again!
That’s Yuman beings …
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:00 PM]
Beings begin
The beguine?
Yuma [3:00 PM]
They end too.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [3:00 PM]
yuma traded for their own pick ... that's classic Bob
Yuma [3:00 PM]
Hard work getting back those picks my crazy GM gave away!
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [3:01 PM]
you are the GM Bob
did you forget again?
Yuma [3:02 PM]
Oh … yeah … I meant the crazy Assistant GM! She’s wacko … though I’m the one residing in the mental hospital. Hmm … very confusing. Nursey, bring me another Cuba Libre!
Reg - Trendsetters [3:02 PM]
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ANNOUNCEMENT
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It is now Monday, December 18th
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News :
Yuma [3:02 PM]
A dark dark day in history,.
Reg - Trendsetters [3:03 PM]
San Juan signed LF Michael Drew to a 1-year/$1.2 million deal
Bakersfield signed RP Hsin-Ta Lian to a 6-year/$50.16 million deal
Kentucky signed SP Ramon Gonzales to a 6-year/$108 million deal
Ron - Akira [3:03 PM]
Too late for CP rewards?
Mike - Borealis [3:03 PM]
I’ll get to that Ron…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:04 PM]
Jeez these clubs are made of money
Well maybe not San Juan
Frank - Badgers [3:04 PM]
I offered Gonzalez more than that. He must not like Kal.
Vic (Claymores) [3:06 PM]
I liked Gonzales, but he didn't like my manager ...
Mike - Borealis [3:06 PM]
On to Day 3, here at the Asheville Hotel and Gin Bar…
Yuma [3:07 PM]
Too much gin in my Cuba Libre, Nursey! Mix another.,
Mike - Borealis [3:07 PM]
First off, we’d like to make an Announcement about the upcoming All-Star Games!!
Drew-Warriors [3:07 PM]
Can't believe Hsin-Ta Lian refused my $3m/year deal...
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [3:08 PM]
gin? in a cuba libre? wth......
ya that's not right
Mike - Borealis [3:08 PM]
As previously announced, the 2029 All-Star Game will be hosted by the PEBA Champion Fargo Dinosaurs!
Yuma [3:08 PM]
Yeah, he’s not too bright, that nurse of mine.
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:08 PM]
!
Mike - Borealis [3:08 PM]
A happy coincidence…
Yuma [3:08 PM]
We’re going to Fargo for the All-Star game? Is the city big enough to put us all up?
Mike - Borealis [3:09 PM]
And we are here to announce that the 2030 All-Star game has been awarded to…
~~drum rolls~~
Vic (Claymores) [3:09 PM]
They've got plenty of Airstreams for lease ...
Mike - Borealis [3:09 PM]
Palm Springs!!
Yuma [3:09 PM]
Ah, wonderful, warm weather, hot tubs, and plenty of bikinis.
Oh, wait, it’ll be summer. Everyone will be indoors with the AC on high.
Frank - Badgers [3:10 PM]
Bob in a bikini?
Mike - Borealis [3:10 PM]
The 2031 All-Star game, the 25th PEBA Mid-Summer Classic, will be held at an IL team to be determined…
Yuma [3:10 PM]
You should see him!
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:10 PM]
Huzzah!
Frank - Badgers [3:10 PM]
Congrats, Denny!
Greg - Alleghenies [3:10 PM]
WV wants the all Star game in our 65k palace
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:11 PM]
Mid century rentals for everyone!
Mike - Borealis [3:11 PM]
We have our Third Trade Announcement of the Winter Meetings!!!
Yuma [3:11 PM]
Huzzah!
Frank - Badgers [3:11 PM]
Yuma's trading for another of his picks?
Vic (Claymores) [3:12 PM]
What, Edinburgh's 35,000 capacity bandbox isn't big enough?
Yuma [3:12 PM]
I wish I could, but no one is responding to my desperate pleas.
The Claynores should host the All Star game in the Castle courtyard, where the Tattoo performs each year.
Dan - Bears [3:12 PM]
I guess Gonzales just wanted to be in Kentucky. I offered 6/$125!
Evan - Underground [3:13 PM]
You have to offer more than 125 bucks for them to sign, Dan
Mike - Borealis [3:13 PM]
The Duluth Warriors will be sending LF Paul Dillworth overseas, to the Land of the Rising Sun, with the Shin Seiki Evil Evas sending RP Takahiro Takaki and the Evas’ 4th round draft pick…
Yuma [3:13 PM]
What! No Yuman beings involved?
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:14 PM]
Unusual
Mike - Coqui [3:14 PM]
My phone/slack not uploading my logo. Feel like i arrived at winter meetings in shorts and flip flops
Dylan - Wind Dancers [3:14 PM]
I see it @Mike - Coqui
Reg - Trendsetters [3:14 PM]
I can see it now!
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [3:14 PM]
cover them flintstone feet
Mike - Coqui [3:14 PM]
Ah there it is! Patience not my virtue
Dylan - Wind Dancers [3:15 PM]
Yabadabadoooo
Mike - Borealis [3:16 PM]
Okie-Dokie… So the Board has been working behind the scenes on updating the Constitution, making some subtle changes, re-wording things for clarity and catching it up to where the PEBA is today.
I would like to highlight some key points…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:16 PM]
Clarity
Faith, hope, and clarity
Mike - Borealis [3:17 PM]
1) We will be using playoff rosters for the coming season. I’m sorry that it wasn’t an option this past season, and I think for the most part it was a non-issue, but that is something we will do in the future…
Yuma [3:18 PM]
For playoff games … or all season long?
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:18 PM]
Permanent playoffs
Yuma [3:18 PM]
What’s a permanent playoff?
Well, Aurora is like a permanent playoff team.
Mike - Coqui [3:19 PM]
We have playoffs?
Drew-Warriors [3:19 PM]
hahaha
Yuma [3:19 PM]
A few privileged teams do. Most of us never do.
Dylan - Wind Dancers [3:19 PM]
Let's make our own playoffs where the bottom teams get to play for something
Mike - Borealis [3:20 PM]
2) The Financial Responsibility and Performance/Expectations changes outlined in the Constitution have been administered. We have added to this the exemption from Fan Loyalty and Market Size adjustments for teams with 1st year GMs. This season Duluth and Amsterdam were exempt - that will not be the case next season. Fargo, as Champs will be exempt for three seasons.
Yuma [3:21 PM]
@Dylan - Wind Dancers Brilliant! Yuma will be happy to host.
Mike - Borealis [3:21 PM]
@Yuma Just for the playoffs - you don’t even see the feature until we get to the playoffs…
Reg - Trendsetters [3:21 PM]
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSnNtdAWwAASwkK.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSnNtdAWwAASwkK.jpg
Yuma [3:22 PM]
@Mike - Borealis Which is why I haven’t seen it for years.
Dylan - Wind Dancers [3:22 PM]
In Toyama, playoffs time is referred to as "Fall Training"
Yuma [3:22 PM]
In Yuma, it’s vacation.
Mike - Borealis [3:24 PM]
3) Contract Rules. We had a healthy discussion in the forum about these, with some great ideas and contributions. There was one additional change that will be added to what is in the forum, and that is “Extensions to players with 6-years of Major League service time or greater (up to age 32), must have Year 1 of extension offers be equal to or greater than their current salary. Future years can remain equal, increase, or decrease (as per the De-escalator Clause).”
Vic (Claymores) [3:25 PM]
See? This is why I like 1-year contracts. Less to remember ...
Mike - Borealis [3:25 PM]
The age limit on RJ’s proclaimed ‘Rob Raines Rule’ was dropped form 35 to 32…
Yuma [3:25 PM]
I’ve ridden an escalator or two, but never a de-escalator.
Mike - Borealis [3:25 PM]
The escalator is the Up ride, the De-escalator is the Down ride…
Evan - Underground [3:25 PM]
Every dude on a bad contract is going to FA instead of extending now haha
Mike - Borealis [3:26 PM]
Lastly, we have the expectations about how the DFA is to be used.
I know this will bring up a whole can of worms about player development, which we are saving for last, but… here is the Expectation:
The DFA list is not to be used as a place to stash players. Draftees and players signed to recent minor league contracts are expected to be assigned to a roster in an appropriate time frame. Minor leaguers cannot be repetitively moved on and off the DFA list as a means of holding onto more players than allowed, or to moderate their playing time. Should it come to the Board’s attention that this is occuring, and the Board is of the opinion that this is the action being taken, the Board will contact the GM and issue a warning. Should the action continue to occur, the Board will have the discretion of releasing the players involved in the infraction. A 2 CP per player released penalty will be applied.
Frank - Badgers [3:27 PM]
32 seems low
Greg - Alleghenies [3:28 PM]
I agree with Frank
Mike - Borealis [3:28 PM]
My thinking is good players at that age will still want big bucks…
Greg - Alleghenies [3:29 PM]
34 seems the right number based on how guys have aged imo, but not my decision
Mike - Borealis [3:30 PM]
Noted
Kevin - Evas [3:30 PM]
Personally I like the lower age limit because it offers better flexibility and more players to teams.
Mike - Borealis [3:31 PM]
We also have some clarification about CP…
I will be posting a final accounting after the Meetings - All forum counts will be through 1 am last night. So you will have an accurate total of what you have.
One of the rewards is a free nickname for minor league playoff teams - that nickname is for a player on that team - and not for someone else. That you’ll have to use the 5 CP option for a nickname.
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:36 PM]
Makes sense
Mike - Borealis [3:36 PM]
There was some question about the ‘Improve Personnel’ option, and how it’s worded and how it’s been used. The language is such that it suggests you may ‘purchase’ multiple rolls, and past history shows that to be the case, so we will allow that - up to three rolls…
Evan - Underground [3:36 PM]
Phew, luckily Felix "The Cat" was on my playoff farm team!
Mike - Borealis [3:37 PM]
Lastly… Winter Ball…
Note that any changes to a player - other than learning something new, are changes to their actual ratings, and not their potential…
Kevin - Evas [3:39 PM]
Ooh I love The tweak to the personnel rule
Mike - Borealis [3:39 PM]
Also, we have discovered that a glitch in the game is not processing ML Service time properly, and some of this years true rookie class are showing up as 1-year ML service (eligible for WB) and some as 1-year + 1-day (not eligible). If you have a player in the latter category and would like clarification, please let me know…
PHEW!!!
And with that, we have Trade #4 to Announce!!!
Yuma [3:41 PM]
HUZZAH!
Drew-Warriors [3:41 PM]
Thanks for all the info Mike!
Mike - Borealis [3:41 PM]
The Scottish Claymores will be sending CF Jack Flynn to Duluth in exchange for CF Orlando Rubio and Duluth’s 5th Round Pick…
AND….
Yuma [3:42 PM]
…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:42 PM]
DEALZ
Yuma [3:42 PM]
More more more!
Mike - Borealis [3:43 PM]
Not to be out done, The London Underground send SP Pete Blaquiere (AA) to Shin Seiki for RP Jose Martinez…
Ron - Akira [3:43 PM]
N'T has cash to buy picks or specs. Can take on salary for the right person.
Evan - Underground [3:43 PM]
:flag-gb: A fine day for Britain, and therefore the World! :flag-gb:
Vic (Claymores) [3:43 PM]
And with our blockbuster announced, Scotland needs to step away for a bit ...
Yuma [3:44 PM]
Take that arrogant Brit with you.
Evan - Underground [3:44 PM]
Ha, I actually am switching to lurker mode as well for awhile. Just for you, Yuma
Drew-Warriors [3:45 PM]
:flag-us:
Greg - Alleghenies [3:46 PM]
I'm just waiting on the fa signings
Dylan - Wind Dancers [3:46 PM]
You've had enough Greg, share the love
Greg - Alleghenies [3:47 PM]
I didn't say for me
I'm just waiting on them
I have no game so I can't make trades
Kevin - Evas [3:48 PM]
I'm about to be a little bit less active now but I'm still hungry for start out if anybody is looking to move anything like that. Multiple first-round picks available
Dylan - Wind Dancers [3:49 PM]
Danger, hungry Evas in the water
Ken - Featherheads [3:51 PM]
Making trades on a mountain... Good times!
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Drew-Warriors [3:51 PM]
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Mike - Borealis [3:52 PM]
HA!!!!
Reg - Trendsetters [3:52 PM]
LOL
Greg - Alleghenies [3:52 PM]
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Reg - Trendsetters [3:52 PM]
hey Ken!!!
Mike - Borealis [3:52 PM]
Nice pick, Ken!!
Nice pick Greg!!
Reg - Trendsetters [3:52 PM]
cool pic Greg!!
Frank - Badgers [3:52 PM]
Why is it mirrored?
Reg - Trendsetters [3:53 PM]
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ANNOUNCEMENT
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It is now Tuesday, December 19th
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RJ - Sandgnats [3:53 PM]
Woo hooooo!
Reg - Trendsetters [3:53 PM]
News :
No transactions to announce
Frank - Badgers [3:53 PM]
lame
Dylan - Wind Dancers [3:53 PM]
Drew-Warriors [3:53 PM]
dag nabbit
Greg - Alleghenies [3:53 PM]
Boo
Mike - Borealis [3:54 PM]
Time for everyone to post a selfie?
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [3:54 PM]
protest all the no transaction that happened (or didn't)
Greg - Alleghenies [3:55 PM]
Let's move on to the next day!!!
RJ - Sandgnats [3:55 PM]
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Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [3:55 PM]
new rule ... skip all lame days
Ken - Featherheads [3:55 PM]
Nice rj and Greg!
Greg - Alleghenies [3:55 PM]
These winter meetings have been 3 hours so far. Where is the timer clock?
Mike - Borealis [3:56 PM]
We are now officially onto Day 4 of the Winter Meetings here in Asheville…
Yuma [3:56 PM]
tick … tick … tick … TOC!
Drew-Warriors [3:56 PM]
Sun starting to rise over the rice paddies...
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Mike - Borealis [3:56 PM]
And we begin with a TRADE!!!
Yuma [3:56 PM]
HUZZAH!
Reg - Trendsetters [3:57 PM]
Drew with the all-nighter! What a trooper!
Mike - Borealis [3:57 PM]
Trade #6: Yuma sends to Kentucky P Arnold Adams (SA) while in return the Yuman’s get AA RP Ron Morales and West Virginia’s 5th round pick - via Yuma via WV…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [3:58 PM]
Image from iOS
Greg - Alleghenies [3:58 PM]
Anyone have interest in my AAA OF Gabriel Martinez? He should definitely be playing in PEBA.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [3:58 PM]
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Mike - Borealis [3:59 PM]
HA!
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:00 PM]
and with that .... I need to start grill and move some materials into position for tomorrow's tasks
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End of Part 1
2028 Winter Meetings Transcript
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2028 Winter Meetings Transcript
Michael Topham, President Golden Entertainment & President-CEO of the Aurora Borealis
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Re: 2028 Winter Meetings Transcript
PART 2
Mike - Borealis [4:01 PM]
So the floor is open for anything anyone whats to discuss here as we wind down - I know one item people want to examine is a ‘Rookie League’…
Reg - Trendsetters [4:01 PM]
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Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:01 PM]
yes I am all for that
the rookie league
Drew-Warriors [4:01 PM]
that reminds me to start the coffee, out of red bull
Greg - Alleghenies [4:02 PM]
I want the rookie league
Patrick Hildreth [4:02 PM]
'srooC'? what kind of mystery brew is that
RJ - Sandgnats [4:02 PM]
Omg.........
Greg - Alleghenies [4:02 PM]
But Ive made my opinions know. And now watching baseball
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:03 PM]
it's Col River Water incognito
Yuma [4:03 PM]
Sneaky how we reverse the lettering on those cans, isn’t it? Some folks buy it thinking it’s beer. Hah!
Drew-Warriors [4:03 PM]
What's the argument against rookie leagues?
RJ - Sandgnats [4:03 PM]
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Mike - Borealis [4:04 PM]
Image from iOS
Greg - Alleghenies [4:04 PM]
Drew who knows lol
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:04 PM]
Guess I’ll join the club
Image from iOS
Greg - Alleghenies [4:04 PM]
People say too hard to hit a button to have managers manage it
Mike - Borealis [4:04 PM]
We have our 7th Trade!!!
RJ - Sandgnats [4:04 PM]
This is a huge one
Reg - Trendsetters [4:04 PM]
finally faces to go with these names! lol
Drew-Warriors [4:05 PM]
yuuuuge
RJ - Sandgnats [4:05 PM]
Drew!
Lol
Mike - Borealis [4:06 PM]
Duluth will ship RP Jose Campos, 2B John Dickson, Duluth’s 1st Round Pick, and Duluth’s 3rd Round Pick to Florida for 3B Andy Sharp, Florida’s 3rd Round Pick, and…
wait for it…
Wait for it…
Ken - Featherheads [4:06 PM]
Hahahahaha
Mike - Borealis [4:06 PM]
RP Steve Hott!!!!
Drew-Warriors [4:06 PM]
*Don't let your memes stay dreams friends*
Ken - Featherheads [4:06 PM]
The meme team
Patrick Hildreth [4:06 PM]
noodling!
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Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:06 PM]
Game breaking
RJ - Sandgnats [4:06 PM]
Bye bye Andy wow too
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:07 PM]
Well look at that. The 2028 Winter Meetings had a Steve Hott trade, musical entertainment from Patrick, and was catered by Duane's Grillin'!
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:07 PM]
Florida has to run out of money someday
RJ - Sandgnats [4:07 PM]
Not as long as their owner has Casinos
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:07 PM]
Consarned casino money
Yuma [4:08 PM]
Or links with the Mob.
Drew-Warriors [4:08 PM]
I for one am good for one day. I'll have my phone for pms but I'll catch up later guys
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:09 PM]
maybe we can have a POLL about the rookie league ....
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:09 PM]
A new Rookie league is something I wouldn't mind having. But for us to pull it off, we would need to spend this season prepping. That would mean figuring out locations, logos, jerseys, caps, etc. It will also require us to look at our new feeder system to make sure we have enough players coming in. Reg had done the math a few weeks ago.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:10 PM]
if we do it for off season play we don't need to add feeders
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:11 PM]
It would be adding a whole new level so there would need to be enough players to fill those levels
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:11 PM]
true winter league
Patrick Hildreth [4:11 PM]
Here's a blast from the archives; This was an Edo fight song I put together in GarageBand for the Battousai right before we blew up the old LRS : https://soundcloud.com/hydrogenalpha/ed ... 16-1010-pm
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Edo Theme Song by HydrogenAlpha
Dan - Bears [4:11 PM]
Are the sims not being published? I'm not seeing an updated file
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:11 PM]
The file will be published at the end
@Dan - Bears
Yuma [4:12 PM]
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Reg - Trendsetters [4:12 PM]
it's more about the balance of ML / MiL / Feeder teams. If you have too many levels of minors and not enough feeder teams, the talent pool diminishes over time, and there starts to be a lack of FA's available . The opposite happens with too many feeder teams vs. MiL levels...
there is a formula out there to keep the perfect balance, and I've used it in my other leagues and it seems to work
Patrick Hildreth [4:13 PM]
is that an official Yuma cap Bob? :skin-tone-3:
Mike - Borealis [4:13 PM]
I think the Rookie league being a short season - maybe 50-60 games in the off-season, so players get rest before being promoted for summer play, isn’t a bad idea… and I think the art issue is the least of the concerns - I think it’s the ages and how that plays into and effects the other minor league levels, is what’s key///
YUMA BOB!!!
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:13 PM]
ok ... I was just thinking move players to it in October and clear it after February
Yuma [4:13 PM]
@Patrick Hildreth You know it.
Mike - Coqui [4:14 PM]
Pedro Alfaro (AAA) still available
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:14 PM]
Bib you look just how I imagined
Bob*
Yuma [4:14 PM]
Just how I imagined too!
Reg - Trendsetters [4:14 PM]
so, if we add a minor league level, we need to just adjust how many feeder teams we have to go with it. If not, there will be a slow drain of Free Agents, and draft pools will get progressively weaker
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:15 PM]
ok I am off to do some stuff that needs doin
Greg - Alleghenies [4:15 PM]
If we add another rookie 20 and under Low A 22/3 and under and high a 24 and under
Mike - Borealis [4:15 PM]
Take Care Duane!
Greg - Alleghenies [4:15 PM]
My thoughts
No age limit for older two
Mike - Borealis [4:16 PM]
I think Duane hit on something - and maybe it’s not feasible…
Kevin - Evas [4:17 PM]
I think most of us agree that we need another level but it's just not feasible this offseason I think we're better off talking about how to make sure we set it up for you in the future
Mike - Borealis [4:17 PM]
If it’s an offseason, players could be moved down from SA and A ball…
Mike - Coqui [4:17 PM]
I think people are overrating their rookie talent. The local supermarket could use some employees
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:17 PM]
But that doesn’t solve the problem of where to put 18-19 year olds during the regular season, if rookie league has to be cleared
Greg - Alleghenies [4:17 PM]
I don't think it could be done until next year
Rookie league plays 80-90 games
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:18 PM]
I agree it has to wait a year to be figured out
Greg - Alleghenies [4:18 PM]
Low a about 120 and high a as many as the other 2
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:18 PM]
Having a league without permanent players (just moving players) could cause some issues. I would prefer a regular, short season rookie level with it's own players.
Mike - Borealis [4:19 PM]
Good points…
Greg - Alleghenies [4:19 PM]
And reduce all teams to 27
If you add another team
Mike - Borealis [4:19 PM]
Yes, Short A would have to drop…
Reg - Trendsetters [4:20 PM]
I believe OOTP says that the lowest level of minors always needs to be at 35 players or more.
Mike - Borealis [4:21 PM]
Really?
No… I can change Short A…
Greg - Alleghenies [4:21 PM]
I don't think so. But I don't ay enough
We used to only have 25 in ours
Mike - Borealis [4:22 PM]
And… Not to disrupt this conversation, but we have Trade #8!!
Greg - Alleghenies [4:22 PM]
That was a recent league change
Reg - Trendsetters [4:22 PM]
I'm trying to find where I read that (if at all)
Mike - Borealis [4:23 PM]
The Florida F-heads trade Turlough Rainforth (AA) and FLA 14th Rd pick to Crystal Lake for Cesar Mendez (AAA) and CL’s 14th rd pick… I smell collusion…
Patrick Hildreth [4:23 PM]
Turlough Rainforth? Sounds like a Celtic shaman ...
RJ - Sandgnats [4:23 PM]
Dont be jealous guys lol
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:24 PM]
Reminder: Codgers anti-youth movement still in effect! Check out those minor league youngsters and make an offer
Mike - Borealis [4:25 PM]
I’d be off if I didn’t recognize Patricks Awesome Edo Theme Song!!!!
Patrick Hildreth [4:25 PM]
the anti-youth movement has been my favorite thing from this offseason
Reg - Trendsetters [4:25 PM]
The 35-player limit is actually mentioned directly in-game, in minor league settings
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Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:26 PM]
Why would they do that to us?
Mike - Borealis [4:26 PM]
I totally missed the fine print…
I wonder why…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:26 PM]
We don’t need that many players in our new rookie league...
Mike - Borealis [4:27 PM]
But, Short A would no longer be the lowest level….
And we could set the rookie league with a low minimum…
Or not…
Frank - Badgers [4:27 PM]
The limit is for the AI to handle injuries
Greg - Alleghenies [4:27 PM]
We are here to break the rules not follow them
Reg - Trendsetters [4:28 PM]
lol
Patrick Hildreth [4:28 PM]
i like having the extra room at the bottom. need spots for all those draft picks every year until the previous years' ones either fail or get better
Frank - Badgers [4:28 PM]
OOTP can't sign FA's fast enough to properly fill all the minors, so they want a 10 player cushion to make sure teams always have the chance to adjust rosters and fill all the levels
I think with minors at 27 and one level at 30, you'd have enough slots.
Greg - Alleghenies [4:29 PM]
Is it tomorrow yet
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:29 PM]
Almost
Mike - Borealis [4:29 PM]
OK Guys… We are about to sim to the Last day of the Winter Meetings, plus a day…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:29 PM]
It’s only a day away
Mike - Borealis [4:30 PM]
Reg will update us on FA…
We can continue here to discuss things, and if you make anymore trades, they will count as WM, but be processed in the next sim…
Thus far 9 teams will earn the 25 bonus WM Trade CP…
And I noted 75% GM turnout in some capacity…
David - Charleston [4:32 PM]
so will a new file be released?
RJ - Sandgnats [4:32 PM]
When will the next exports be due Mike?
Mike - Borealis [4:32 PM]
Yes, but it may be later this evening - I’ll let Reg give you a better idea of timing…
Reg - Trendsetters [4:32 PM]
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ANNOUNCEMENT
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It is now Wednesday, December 20th
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Greg - Alleghenies [4:32 PM]
Day before winter!!!
Reg - Trendsetters [4:32 PM]
News :
London signs RF Yasuhiro Nagai to a 2-year/$6.4 million contract extension
Mike - Borealis [4:33 PM]
Man… Molina still looking like the Big Money Man on Campus!
To answer RJ’s question, Reg will get the new file out at some point tonight (I think). Our next sim will be Tuesday - not monday, Tuesday, the 28th at the usual time… You will need to send your final Rule 5 roster changes - including rostering your newly acquired guys, in that sim!
There will be no roster changes or trades posted between Tuesday and Thursday’s Rule 5 sim…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:37 PM]
Stupid FAs who can’t be bothered to respond to my offers...
Yuma [4:38 PM]
Not stupid, Denny, greedy. Greed rules the PEBAverse, at least where the players are concerned. You think just once they'd consider the aesthetics!
Mike - Borealis [4:39 PM]
Right Bob? There was a day when PEBA stood for no greed!!
Yuma [4:41 PM]
Ah, the good old days when ... well, I can't remember anything that far back. Strange, though, I remember my childhood like it was yesterday. But a year ago, a decade ago, all gone into the great vacuity in the sky.
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:44 PM]
Those were the days!
Yuma [4:44 PM]
Sing it with me, Denny!
Those were the days my friend, We thought they'd never end, We'd sign and dance forever and a day ...
We'd live the life we choose, We'd fight and never lose, For we were young and sure to have our way
Any more trades or signings to announce, Mike?
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There was no doubt a bit more, but this is where our day's saga ended...
Mike - Borealis [4:01 PM]
So the floor is open for anything anyone whats to discuss here as we wind down - I know one item people want to examine is a ‘Rookie League’…
Reg - Trendsetters [4:01 PM]
20190525_170045.jpg
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:01 PM]
yes I am all for that
the rookie league
Drew-Warriors [4:01 PM]
that reminds me to start the coffee, out of red bull
Greg - Alleghenies [4:02 PM]
I want the rookie league
Patrick Hildreth [4:02 PM]
'srooC'? what kind of mystery brew is that
RJ - Sandgnats [4:02 PM]
Omg.........
Greg - Alleghenies [4:02 PM]
But Ive made my opinions know. And now watching baseball
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:03 PM]
it's Col River Water incognito
Yuma [4:03 PM]
Sneaky how we reverse the lettering on those cans, isn’t it? Some folks buy it thinking it’s beer. Hah!
Drew-Warriors [4:03 PM]
What's the argument against rookie leagues?
RJ - Sandgnats [4:03 PM]
18467.jpeg
Mike - Borealis [4:04 PM]
Image from iOS
Greg - Alleghenies [4:04 PM]
Drew who knows lol
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:04 PM]
Guess I’ll join the club
Image from iOS
Greg - Alleghenies [4:04 PM]
People say too hard to hit a button to have managers manage it
Mike - Borealis [4:04 PM]
We have our 7th Trade!!!
RJ - Sandgnats [4:04 PM]
This is a huge one
Reg - Trendsetters [4:04 PM]
finally faces to go with these names! lol
Drew-Warriors [4:05 PM]
yuuuuge
RJ - Sandgnats [4:05 PM]
Drew!
Lol
Mike - Borealis [4:06 PM]
Duluth will ship RP Jose Campos, 2B John Dickson, Duluth’s 1st Round Pick, and Duluth’s 3rd Round Pick to Florida for 3B Andy Sharp, Florida’s 3rd Round Pick, and…
wait for it…
Wait for it…
Ken - Featherheads [4:06 PM]
Hahahahaha
Mike - Borealis [4:06 PM]
RP Steve Hott!!!!
Drew-Warriors [4:06 PM]
*Don't let your memes stay dreams friends*
Ken - Featherheads [4:06 PM]
The meme team
Patrick Hildreth [4:06 PM]
noodling!
Axe.jpg
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:06 PM]
Game breaking
RJ - Sandgnats [4:06 PM]
Bye bye Andy wow too
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:07 PM]
Well look at that. The 2028 Winter Meetings had a Steve Hott trade, musical entertainment from Patrick, and was catered by Duane's Grillin'!
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:07 PM]
Florida has to run out of money someday
RJ - Sandgnats [4:07 PM]
Not as long as their owner has Casinos
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:07 PM]
Consarned casino money
Yuma [4:08 PM]
Or links with the Mob.
Drew-Warriors [4:08 PM]
I for one am good for one day. I'll have my phone for pms but I'll catch up later guys
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:09 PM]
maybe we can have a POLL about the rookie league ....
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:09 PM]
A new Rookie league is something I wouldn't mind having. But for us to pull it off, we would need to spend this season prepping. That would mean figuring out locations, logos, jerseys, caps, etc. It will also require us to look at our new feeder system to make sure we have enough players coming in. Reg had done the math a few weeks ago.
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:10 PM]
if we do it for off season play we don't need to add feeders
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:11 PM]
It would be adding a whole new level so there would need to be enough players to fill those levels
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:11 PM]
true winter league
Patrick Hildreth [4:11 PM]
Here's a blast from the archives; This was an Edo fight song I put together in GarageBand for the Battousai right before we blew up the old LRS : https://soundcloud.com/hydrogenalpha/ed ... 16-1010-pm
SoundCloudHydrogenAlpha
Edo Theme Song by HydrogenAlpha
Dan - Bears [4:11 PM]
Are the sims not being published? I'm not seeing an updated file
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:11 PM]
The file will be published at the end
@Dan - Bears
Yuma [4:12 PM]
Yuma Bob.JPG
Reg - Trendsetters [4:12 PM]
it's more about the balance of ML / MiL / Feeder teams. If you have too many levels of minors and not enough feeder teams, the talent pool diminishes over time, and there starts to be a lack of FA's available . The opposite happens with too many feeder teams vs. MiL levels...
there is a formula out there to keep the perfect balance, and I've used it in my other leagues and it seems to work
Patrick Hildreth [4:13 PM]
is that an official Yuma cap Bob? :skin-tone-3:
Mike - Borealis [4:13 PM]
I think the Rookie league being a short season - maybe 50-60 games in the off-season, so players get rest before being promoted for summer play, isn’t a bad idea… and I think the art issue is the least of the concerns - I think it’s the ages and how that plays into and effects the other minor league levels, is what’s key///
YUMA BOB!!!
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:13 PM]
ok ... I was just thinking move players to it in October and clear it after February
Yuma [4:13 PM]
@Patrick Hildreth You know it.
Mike - Coqui [4:14 PM]
Pedro Alfaro (AAA) still available
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:14 PM]
Bib you look just how I imagined
Bob*
Yuma [4:14 PM]
Just how I imagined too!
Reg - Trendsetters [4:14 PM]
so, if we add a minor league level, we need to just adjust how many feeder teams we have to go with it. If not, there will be a slow drain of Free Agents, and draft pools will get progressively weaker
Duane - KyT - Thoroughbreds [4:15 PM]
ok I am off to do some stuff that needs doin
Greg - Alleghenies [4:15 PM]
If we add another rookie 20 and under Low A 22/3 and under and high a 24 and under
Mike - Borealis [4:15 PM]
Take Care Duane!
Greg - Alleghenies [4:15 PM]
My thoughts
No age limit for older two
Mike - Borealis [4:16 PM]
I think Duane hit on something - and maybe it’s not feasible…
Kevin - Evas [4:17 PM]
I think most of us agree that we need another level but it's just not feasible this offseason I think we're better off talking about how to make sure we set it up for you in the future
Mike - Borealis [4:17 PM]
If it’s an offseason, players could be moved down from SA and A ball…
Mike - Coqui [4:17 PM]
I think people are overrating their rookie talent. The local supermarket could use some employees
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:17 PM]
But that doesn’t solve the problem of where to put 18-19 year olds during the regular season, if rookie league has to be cleared
Greg - Alleghenies [4:17 PM]
I don't think it could be done until next year
Rookie league plays 80-90 games
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:18 PM]
I agree it has to wait a year to be figured out
Greg - Alleghenies [4:18 PM]
Low a about 120 and high a as many as the other 2
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:18 PM]
Having a league without permanent players (just moving players) could cause some issues. I would prefer a regular, short season rookie level with it's own players.
Mike - Borealis [4:19 PM]
Good points…
Greg - Alleghenies [4:19 PM]
And reduce all teams to 27
If you add another team
Mike - Borealis [4:19 PM]
Yes, Short A would have to drop…
Reg - Trendsetters [4:20 PM]
I believe OOTP says that the lowest level of minors always needs to be at 35 players or more.
Mike - Borealis [4:21 PM]
Really?
No… I can change Short A…
Greg - Alleghenies [4:21 PM]
I don't think so. But I don't ay enough
We used to only have 25 in ours
Mike - Borealis [4:22 PM]
And… Not to disrupt this conversation, but we have Trade #8!!
Greg - Alleghenies [4:22 PM]
That was a recent league change
Reg - Trendsetters [4:22 PM]
I'm trying to find where I read that (if at all)
Mike - Borealis [4:23 PM]
The Florida F-heads trade Turlough Rainforth (AA) and FLA 14th Rd pick to Crystal Lake for Cesar Mendez (AAA) and CL’s 14th rd pick… I smell collusion…
Patrick Hildreth [4:23 PM]
Turlough Rainforth? Sounds like a Celtic shaman ...
RJ - Sandgnats [4:23 PM]
Dont be jealous guys lol
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:24 PM]
Reminder: Codgers anti-youth movement still in effect! Check out those minor league youngsters and make an offer
Mike - Borealis [4:25 PM]
I’d be off if I didn’t recognize Patricks Awesome Edo Theme Song!!!!
Patrick Hildreth [4:25 PM]
the anti-youth movement has been my favorite thing from this offseason
Reg - Trendsetters [4:25 PM]
The 35-player limit is actually mentioned directly in-game, in minor league settings
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Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:26 PM]
Why would they do that to us?
Mike - Borealis [4:26 PM]
I totally missed the fine print…
I wonder why…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:26 PM]
We don’t need that many players in our new rookie league...
Mike - Borealis [4:27 PM]
But, Short A would no longer be the lowest level….
And we could set the rookie league with a low minimum…
Or not…
Frank - Badgers [4:27 PM]
The limit is for the AI to handle injuries
Greg - Alleghenies [4:27 PM]
We are here to break the rules not follow them
Reg - Trendsetters [4:28 PM]
lol
Patrick Hildreth [4:28 PM]
i like having the extra room at the bottom. need spots for all those draft picks every year until the previous years' ones either fail or get better
Frank - Badgers [4:28 PM]
OOTP can't sign FA's fast enough to properly fill all the minors, so they want a 10 player cushion to make sure teams always have the chance to adjust rosters and fill all the levels
I think with minors at 27 and one level at 30, you'd have enough slots.
Greg - Alleghenies [4:29 PM]
Is it tomorrow yet
Dylan - Wind Dancers [4:29 PM]
Almost
Mike - Borealis [4:29 PM]
OK Guys… We are about to sim to the Last day of the Winter Meetings, plus a day…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:29 PM]
It’s only a day away
Mike - Borealis [4:30 PM]
Reg will update us on FA…
We can continue here to discuss things, and if you make anymore trades, they will count as WM, but be processed in the next sim…
Thus far 9 teams will earn the 25 bonus WM Trade CP…
And I noted 75% GM turnout in some capacity…
David - Charleston [4:32 PM]
so will a new file be released?
RJ - Sandgnats [4:32 PM]
When will the next exports be due Mike?
Mike - Borealis [4:32 PM]
Yes, but it may be later this evening - I’ll let Reg give you a better idea of timing…
Reg - Trendsetters [4:32 PM]
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ANNOUNCEMENT
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It is now Wednesday, December 20th
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Greg - Alleghenies [4:32 PM]
Day before winter!!!
Reg - Trendsetters [4:32 PM]
News :
London signs RF Yasuhiro Nagai to a 2-year/$6.4 million contract extension
Mike - Borealis [4:33 PM]
Man… Molina still looking like the Big Money Man on Campus!
To answer RJ’s question, Reg will get the new file out at some point tonight (I think). Our next sim will be Tuesday - not monday, Tuesday, the 28th at the usual time… You will need to send your final Rule 5 roster changes - including rostering your newly acquired guys, in that sim!
There will be no roster changes or trades posted between Tuesday and Thursday’s Rule 5 sim…
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:37 PM]
Stupid FAs who can’t be bothered to respond to my offers...
Yuma [4:38 PM]
Not stupid, Denny, greedy. Greed rules the PEBAverse, at least where the players are concerned. You think just once they'd consider the aesthetics!
Mike - Borealis [4:39 PM]
Right Bob? There was a day when PEBA stood for no greed!!
Yuma [4:41 PM]
Ah, the good old days when ... well, I can't remember anything that far back. Strange, though, I remember my childhood like it was yesterday. But a year ago, a decade ago, all gone into the great vacuity in the sky.
Denny Hills - Palm Springs Codgers [4:44 PM]
Those were the days!
Yuma [4:44 PM]
Sing it with me, Denny!
Those were the days my friend, We thought they'd never end, We'd sign and dance forever and a day ...
We'd live the life we choose, We'd fight and never lose, For we were young and sure to have our way
Any more trades or signings to announce, Mike?
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There was no doubt a bit more, but this is where our day's saga ended...
Michael Topham, President Golden Entertainment & President-CEO of the Aurora Borealis
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